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17. Pre-enforcement standing is a well-recognized legal principle
Sat Jul 1, 2023, 04:18 PM
Jul 2023

The Tenth Circuit found a legitimate basis for pre-enforcement standing (without relying on the email ) and the Supreme Court found neither side was challenging the Tenth Circuit's conclusions (and the dissent doesn't discuss the standing issue):

"Ultimately, the district court ruled against Ms. Smith. 405 F. Supp. 3d 907, 912 (Colo. 2019). So did the Tenth Circuit. 6 F. 4th, at 1168. For its part, the Tenth Circuit held that Ms. Smith had standing to sue. In that court’s judgment, she had established a credible threat that, if she follows through on her plans to offer wedding website ser- vices, Colorado will invoke CADA to force her to create speech she does not believe or endorse. Id., at 1172–1175. The court pointed to the fact that “Colorado has a history of past enforcement against nearly identical conduct—i.e., Masterpiece Cakeshop”; that anyone in the State may file a complaint against Ms. Smith and initiate “a potentially burdensome administrative hearing” process; and that “Colorado [has] decline[d] to disavow future enforcement” proceedings against her. Id., at 1174. Before us, no party challenges these conclusions."

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Jeepers. Stewart needs to find a cutthroat attorney to sue Smith and the ADF. tanyev Jun 2023 #1
Check out this thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218053777 mainer Jun 2023 #2
Can you sue the Supreme Court for basing a decision on fake information? Just kidding! Lonestarblue Jun 2023 #3
They are illegitimate, ignore the court until they resign! Bluethroughu Jun 2023 #4
Unfortunately, the decision wasn't based on that information. onenote Jul 2023 #16
SCOTUS has done this before. slightlv Jun 2023 #5
Agree. I think the Sorry Six decide what laws they want to overturn then shop for or make up LoisB Jun 2023 #6
Exactly what I was saying... slightlv Jun 2023 #8
Nah. I just copied your thoughts. LoisB Jun 2023 #9
Well, groups like the ADF and the Federalist Society do all the legwork, tanyev Jun 2023 #10
Yep. Pretty much to justice what ALEC is to legislation. LoisB Jun 2023 #11
Can recall a call from Thomas after the Dobbs case soliciting others to come forward with cases allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #22
Am wondering who the defender Elenis is. Didn't think the Supremes would take a case if allegorical oracle Jun 2023 #12
Pre-enforcement standing is a well-recognized legal principle onenote Jul 2023 #17
Interesting. Chris Hayes last night (Fri.) showed a quote that I can only mention about how allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #23
Lorie Smith (303 Creative LLC) sued Colorado (naming a bunch of Colorado officials Hortensis Jun 2023 #7
Thank you for that. I missed your post (and wish I'd checked before searching. Never saw a allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #24
Identity Theft NowISeetheLight Jun 2023 #13
Good point - maybe her identity has been hijacked FakeNoose Jul 2023 #26
There was no true case or controversy LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #14
Chasten Buttigieg is a wonderful person but he's not a lawyer onenote Jul 2023 #18
I am a lawyer and there was no real case or controversy here LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #20
So why didn't Sotomayor, Kagan, and Ketanji Jackson mention standing? onenote Jul 2023 #21
This was a manufactured case LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #29
And you think Sotomayor, Kagan and Jackson Brown were accomplices? onenote Jul 2023 #31
Do you tire of being wrong? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #32
I'm happy to admit when i'm wrong. In this instance, i'm not wrong. onenote Jul 2023 #35
Are you a member of the bar? LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #36
Yes. Forty-five years of practice, including a few cases before the Supreme Court. onenote Jul 2023 #37
The issues about the lack of a case or controversy was evidently not before the SCOTUS LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #38
Procedure exists to force the Supreme Court to rehear 'made up' wedding website case: Neal Katyal LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #34
Iokiyar. And how does this constitute true standing and actual harm? lostnfound Jul 2023 #15
Pre-enforcement standing is a well-recognized legal principle among lawyers. onenote Jul 2023 #19
So if I get it in my crazy brain one night that some individual intends to murder me, can I sue allegorical oracle Jul 2023 #25
No. onenote Jul 2023 #27
Actually the phrase alone is self--explanatory lostnfound Jul 2023 #28
Yeah there's something about this that stinks and I can't quite put my finger on it. Initech Jul 2023 #30
Man cited in Supreme Court LGBTQ rights case says he was never involved LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2023 #33
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