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elocs

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9. I saw your title and 2016 was the one I thought of as well.

Tue Jul 4, 2023, 11:07 AM

Jul 2023

The Left was complacent and cocky. Too many thought Trump could never win, too many thought Hillary had it in the bag. Like in my state of Wisconsin that Obama easily won twice but Hillary narrowly lost in '16. In fact, Jill Stein of the Green Party received more votes here than Trump's margin of victory. Those votes overwhelmingly came from the Left.

How many from the Left just considered themselves too noble and righteous to bring themselves to vote for the lesser of 2 perceived evils so they didn't vote for Hillary? Too many.

Imagine an alternate universe where Hillary Clinton beat Trump. What a different America this would be now. Especially the makeup of the Supreme Court.

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2024 is not the most important election of our lives. [View all] Loki Liesmith Jul 2023 OP

Where is Susan Sarandon? Maine Abu El Banat Jul 2023 #1

I think Bush v Gore may have been even worse Greybnk48 Jul 2023 #2

No. 2000 was the pivotal election, IMO. By 2016 it was too late. ms liberty Jul 2023 #3

✔️ live love laugh Jul 2023 #4

2000 was crucial. 2016 was an opportunity to stop the bleeding In It to Win It Jul 2023 #7

Yes but Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #5

But did we learn the lesson of 2016 or will we repeat it? elocs Jul 2023 #10

They seemed to have learned it in 2020. Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #17

Whether 2000 or 2016 your point is it's behind us. live love laugh Jul 2023 #6

I know you can't change the past but I think the election of Reagan in 1980 walkingman Jul 2023 #8

I saw your title and 2016 was the one I thought of as well. elocs Jul 2023 #9

Your facts and reasoning are wrong - and devisive Doc Sportello Jul 2023 #14

Well, 2016 is past and unless you Bettie Jul 2023 #11

This post sucks. edisdead Jul 2023 #12

You're absolutley right Doc Sportello Jul 2023 #15

I think that our political history is very important. walkingman Jul 2023 #18

It can get a lot worse if Trump winsn in 2024. SYFROYH Jul 2023 #13

Ridiculous Doc Sportello Jul 2023 #16

2000 and 2016 were self inflicted wounds. roamer65 Jul 2023 #19

If you want to live in the past go back to 2000. That was when the Supreme court stepped in Autumn Jul 2023 #20