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treestar

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19. that's rare enough, I mean you can't say those shootings mean
Tue Jul 4, 2023, 06:14 PM
Jul 2023

that black people should still think of themselves as entirely excluded. This either/or thing is too much. What about that black people have been in the military and there are some black generals? What about the black president, vice president, supreme court justices, Senators, representatives? Professionals and even millionaires? It's no good ignoring all the progress. The shootings in fact are likely fewer than they were back in the 50s, and better publicized than back in those days, so they seem more frequent. There are a lot more black cops now than back then too. Teachers, desegregated schools. The younger generation has a lot more desegregation than when I went to school, and yet it's only now that black people shouldn't celebrate the 4th? They were probably celebrating it back when things were actually a lot worse.




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Who Knows ITAL Jul 2023 #1
I agree. I doubt many people will change their typical annual plans. jimfields33 Jul 2023 #2
Most people will be celebrating. Most of the angst is on du here. Srkdqltr Jul 2023 #3
Yep. Cyrano Jul 2023 #4
Not giving you crap, it's just that people here are more passionate about things than the general Srkdqltr Jul 2023 #5
I wonder how many anti-democratic white people are celebrating? applegrove Jul 2023 #6
Five members of the SCOTUS ... plus one Cyrano Jul 2023 #7
actually, I've never understood black people going all out on July 4 CatWoman Jul 2023 #8
Just as a guess, it's just like Cyrano Jul 2023 #10
Growing up in Atlanta, it was more a case of celebrating family. Not the holiday itself. Solly Mack Jul 2023 #30
I don't think many white people are REALLY celebrating the reason for the holiday Red Mountain Jul 2023 #9
I look at July 4th as the birth of an imperfect Union with aspirations to get better. mackdaddy Jul 2023 #11
Nicely put Deuxcents Jul 2023 #12
Yeah. I said something like this a day or two ago. 👍 electric_blue68 Jul 2023 #26
Well stated! ShazzieB Jul 2023 #35
Where I am, lots. nolabear Jul 2023 #13
Yes, in some ways, it's a day of joy. Cyrano Jul 2023 #17
I don't mean they're secondary in everyday life. Not at all. nolabear Jul 2023 #33
In my experience, most. Elessar Zappa Jul 2023 #14
Why this year? treestar Jul 2023 #15
"Black people have in theory at least, been included." Cyrano Jul 2023 #18
that's rare enough, I mean you can't say those shootings mean treestar Jul 2023 #19
define celebrate dembotoz Jul 2023 #16
Post removed Post removed Jul 2023 #20
Most, from what I've seen and heard. nt Raine Jul 2023 #21
Less and less every year. NotVeryImportant Jul 2023 #22
Most are celebrating. JI7 Jul 2023 #23
Oh, get over yourself. ARandomPerson Jul 2023 #24
(1852) FREDERICK DOUGLASS, "WHAT, TO THE SLAVE, IS THE FOURTH OF JULY" malaise Jul 2023 #25
Thank you Malaise CatWoman Jul 2023 #37
You're welcome sis malaise Jul 2023 #38
Just watched the HBO special on Douglass RussBLib Jul 2023 #40
I need to watch that malaise Jul 2023 #41
What a curious post. Do you not know any "black people"? BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #27
Not to condemn the op B.See Jul 2023 #32
Well put. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #34
Thanks for getting it what I'm saying. Someone apparently missed the point. B.See Jul 2023 #44
Have earned the right? malaise Jul 2023 #39
I was speaking of those who, in spite of that and all that I referenced, somehow believe OTHERWISE. B.See Jul 2023 #43
My whole neighborhood cooking out, relaxing, etc. roamer65 Jul 2023 #28
Exactly the same in my hood. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #36
All the black people in my office (15) and in my neighborhood (about 5) are celebrating... Progressive Lawyer Jul 2023 #29
At a Juneteenth event in Tacoma, WA Kennah Jul 2023 #31
"I thought it best to remind ourselves" betsuni Jul 2023 #42
What an incredibly arrogant post Showbizkid Jul 2023 #45
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