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In reply to the discussion: North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Says Hitler Is Being Taken Out of Context [View all]live love laugh
(16,559 posts)83. Hitler praised America's progress toward a primarily racial conception of citizenship.
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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitlerAmong recent books on Nazism, the one that may prove most disquieting for American readers is James Q. Whitmans Hitlers American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law (Princeton). ... Whitman methodically explores how the Nazis took inspiration from American racism of the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. He notes that, in Mein Kampf, Hitler praises America as the one state that has made progress toward a primarily racial conception of citizenship, by excluding certain races from naturalization. Whitman writes that the discussion of such influences is almost taboo, because the crimes of the Third Reich are commonly defined as the nefandum, the unspeakable descent into what we often call radical evil. But the kind of genocidal hatred that erupted in Germany had been seen before and has been seen since. Only by stripping away its national regalia and comprehending its essential human form do we have any hope of vanquishing it.
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The Nazis were not wrong to cite American precedents. Enslavement of African-Americans was written into the U.S. Constitution. Thomas Jefferson spoke of the need to eliminate or extirpate Native Americans. In 1856, an Oregonian settler wrote, Extermination, however unchristianlike it may appear, seems to be the only resort left for the protection of life and property. General Philip Sheridan spoke of annihilation, obliteration, and complete destruction. To be sure, others promoted more peacefulalbeit still repressivepolicies. The historian Edward B. Westermann, in Hitlers Ostkrieg and the Indian Wars (Oklahoma), concludes that, because federal policy never officially mandated the physical annihilation of the Native populations on racial grounds or characteristics, this was not a genocide on the order of the Shoah. The fact remains that between 1500 and 1900 the Native population of U.S. territories dropped from many millions to around two hundred thousand.
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Americas knack for maintaining an air of robust innocence in the wake of mass death struck Hitler as an example to be emulated. ... Jim Crow laws in the American South served as a precedent in a stricter legal sense. Scholars have long been aware that Hitlers regime expressed admiration for American race law, but they have tended to see this as a public-relations strategyan everybody does it justification for Nazi policies. Whitman, however, points out that if these comparisons had been intended solely for a foreign audience they would not have been buried in hefty tomes in Fraktur type. Race Law in the United States, a 1936 study by the German lawyer Heinrich Krieger, attempts to sort out inconsistencies in the legal status of nonwhite Americans. Krieger concludes that the entire apparatus is hopelessly opaque, concealing racist aims behind contorted justifications. Why not simply say what one means? This was a major difference between American and German racism.
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American eugenicists made no secret of their racist objectives, and their views were prevalent enough that F. Scott Fitzgerald featured them in The Great Gatsby. (The cloddish Tom Buchanan, having evidently read Lothrop Stoddards 1920 tract The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy, says, The idea is if we dont look out the white race will bewill be utterly submerged.) Californias sterilization program directly inspired the Nazi sterilization law of 1934. There are also sinister, if mostly coincidental, similarities between American and German technologies of death. In 1924, the first execution by gas chamber took place, in Nevada. In a history of the American gas chamber, Scott Christianson states that the fumigating agent Zyklon-B, which was licensed to American Cyanamid by the German company I. G. Farben, was considered as a lethal agent but found to be impractical. Zyklon-B was, however, used to disinfect immigrants as they crossed the border at El Pasoa practice that did not go unnoticed by Gerhard Peters, the chemist who supplied a modified version of Zyklon-B to Auschwitz. Later, American gas chambers were outfitted with a chute down which poison pellets were dropped. Earl Liston, the inventor of the device, explained, Pulling a lever to kill a man is hard work. Pouring acid down a tube is easier on the nerves, more like watering flowers. Much the same method was introduced at Auschwitz, to relieve stress on S.S. guards.
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North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Says Hitler Is Being Taken Out of Context [View all]
Eugene
Jul 2023
OP
that fucking Uncle Ruckus would get the Zyklon B 'shower' under the Hitler regime no matter how much
Celerity
Jul 2023
#49
Their coded patch on their prison uniforms was a pink triangle.So yes, he tried to wipe them out too
Hekate
Jul 2023
#46
What are you talking about...they were sent to the same camps as the Jews...and instead
Demsrule86
Jul 2023
#60
Well, that's the other side of the Holocaust since Republicans think you gave to present both sides.
Lonestarblue
Jul 2023
#27
This ignorant man is an example of not educating people in history...not just the
allegorical oracle
Jul 2023
#38
Dictators are the real victims here. Dude wrote a whole book about his struggle
IronLionZion
Jul 2023
#43
The Koch brothers bought "influencers" in North Carolina during the Tea Party fiasco.
BComplex
Jul 2023
#45
To read about dangerous demagogues ( Hitler/ Trump ) is important. The "context " danger here is
BeckyDem
Jul 2023
#58
A Lieutenant Governor of North Carolina said Hitler quote "was taken out of context"?
Kid Berwyn
Jul 2023
#68
Well Hitler was groomed by US racism of people like that governor. Soooo
live love laugh
Jul 2023
#69
Hitler praised America's progress toward a primarily racial conception of citizenship.
live love laugh
Jul 2023
#83