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Mme. Defarge

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14. Just posted this on another thread.

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:09 PM

Nov 2012

Reply #20
In the discussion thread: Attempted Military Coup D'etat [View all]
10:59 AM
Mme. Defarge
20. My (current) theory ...

Benghazi was the October Surprise. It went terribly wrong.

The bad information fed to State was deliberate.

Romney was all over it the moment the story broke. And, it was true, it would not have happened had he been POTUS.

Obama knew exactly what was going on by the time of the second debate, and was daring Romney to "go there" when he said "Please proceed, Governor." Obama was not taunting Mitt because he knew he was leading him into a semantic trap. Romney pounced on what he believed was a (forced) blunder by the president. Obama's "gotcha" moment over wording was just the way it played out in the debate.

Hillary, and also Bill, understood what had gone down. This might have fueled Bill's passion in campaigning for Obama.

The exposure and humiliation of the general is the beginning of the great retribution.

IMO

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This is Seven Days In May, not "creative speculation"... [View all] PCIntern Nov 2012 OP

That's funny because I had been thinking of Gen. James Matoon Scott as I read this navarth Nov 2012 #1

Me, too. I thought it would only futher reveal how ancient I am. David Zephyr Nov 2012 #6

ancient??? nah. navarth Nov 2012 #100

Me as well, excringency Nov 2012 #54

ah....Smedley Butler.... navarth Nov 2012 #102

Call SAG/AFTRA and get Clooney's agent's name GoneOffShore Nov 2012 #114

It really does, except that the guy's name was Smedley. That's a tough one to get past. Squinch Nov 2012 #139

me too.... ewagner Nov 2012 #151

There is much yet unseen. Whovian Nov 2012 #2

What was the thing that was planned, PC? Benghazi? Something else? villager Nov 2012 #3

Carter MOMFUDSKI Nov 2012 #47

Good guess, Momfudski. They've had success with treason before villager Nov 2012 #50

Welcome to DU, MOMFUDSKI! calimary Nov 2012 #55

Never forget: PRESCOTT BUSH. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #60

Don't EVEN get me started! ReRe Nov 2012 #84

Here's 2naSalit Nov 2012 #132

Well said - very well said JustAnotherGen Nov 2012 #141

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #4

How would I know? PCIntern Nov 2012 #20

Oh, sorry ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #34

Yes I usually do... PCIntern Nov 2012 #36

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #42

No, I don't get your point muriel_volestrangler Nov 2012 #53

I think it's 2naSalit Nov 2012 #80

Yes, exactly. Nt PCIntern Nov 2012 #85

Something definitely smells in Denmark Caretha Nov 2012 #120

I feel similarly lalalu Nov 2012 #38

A stolen election is a form of coup d'etat. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #99

Ok. I'll play. How does the Benghazi attack work in with your theory? leveymg Nov 2012 #5

K&R for PCIntern. David Zephyr Nov 2012 #7

Ok, I promise not to use the word "creative" HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #8

if so, it is the most dunderheaded and incompetent military/CIA operation ever librechik Nov 2012 #9

There is no benefit because Romney lost. lalalu Nov 2012 #43

+1 sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #51

But Romney's "satan grin" press conference suggests that it was something that was Squinch Nov 2012 #67

Romney is stupid and arrogant. lalalu Nov 2012 #83

Speculation. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #127

Broadwell has now confessed to taking and having documents. lalalu Nov 2012 #128

You even say that you are speculating. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #142

Speculation that is being backed up lalalu Nov 2012 #144

Republicans play a long game. There's, ahem, Hillary. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #133

Connecting some dots anyone? 2naSalit Nov 2012 #137

All I see is speculation and nothing concrete. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #143

If you're an Asimov fan as one can discern from your screen name PCIntern Nov 2012 #146

Bay of Pigs, anyone? Up-thread: Carterization of Obama = No 2nd term. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #61

Hate to burst your Bubble ... GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #10

the plot took place in October, and is related to Benghazi magical thyme Nov 2012 #95

I don't, for a minute, think this is about sex. Bonhomme Richard Nov 2012 #11

But it seems to involve blackmail over sex as a side issue. Squinch Nov 2012 #64

Maybe it just unravelled over a petty womans jealousy. Bonhomme Richard Nov 2012 #70

Yes, and I think it probably did, but I also think that Petraeus has enough supporters that Squinch Nov 2012 #73

or outing the affair is cover for the real reason for the resignation magical thyme Nov 2012 #97

After 37 "faithful" years a guy has an affair? That's the first aspect that smells funny to me. mulsh Nov 2012 #112

But there seems to be a culture revealing itself of the old men and their Squinch Nov 2012 #138

Why do you think this is his first affair? Warren Stupidity Nov 2012 #153

Bwah! I'm SURE Broadwell is his one and only--NOT. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #154

Actually, you have billh58 Nov 2012 #12

You can be as skeptical as you want... PCIntern Nov 2012 #31

I agree - the sex is the sideshow malaise Nov 2012 #72

I don't have a clue billh58 Nov 2012 #75

There is way too much to be dismissed at a coincidence Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #13

Just posted this on another thread. Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #14

agreed. magical thyme Nov 2012 #103

2 questions. 1st: Why would their "October surprise" come in early September? And 2nd... Bucky Nov 2012 #105

Iran Contra vignette: Mc Mike Nov 2012 #147

"October Surprise" is just what it's named; not a fixed date magical thyme Nov 2012 #150

I did notice sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #152

there sure is a lot more to all this than we are told Whisp Nov 2012 #15

add in the Drudge tease about an upcoming sex scandal... grasswire Nov 2012 #16

Movies are not real. randome Nov 2012 #17

This post was alerted on. Tick Tock! ohiosmith Nov 2012 #18

lol. seriously? Whisp Nov 2012 #19

Yep! I'll post the results if the thread isn't locked. ohiosmith Nov 2012 #22

Probably because it dances a bit close to the conspiracy theory line justiceischeap Nov 2012 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Squinch Nov 2012 #69

Dulles had in end for JFK and his Ichingcarpenter Nov 2012 #21

+1 villager Nov 2012 #28

There is a photo floating around - of Romney - right after his Benghazi press conference Lucinda Nov 2012 #24

Creepy picture of Romney smiling at presser demhottie Nov 2012 #117

Yep. That's it. He was just talking about 4 people being murdered. Lucinda Nov 2012 #118

He appears to have 2naSalit Nov 2012 #129

Alert update! The jury voted 4/2 to let this post stand! ohiosmith Nov 2012 #25

I was on the jury too, i voted to let it stay. darkangel218 Nov 2012 #27

Me too! I was juror #1 ohiosmith Nov 2012 #30

I can't believe someone put an alert on this. lalalu Nov 2012 #35

"crazy talk" DollarBillHines Nov 2012 #40

sheesh jollyreaper2112 Nov 2012 #46

Part of the answer is that the anonymity protects those who foolishly overly-alert so that they AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #77

if the TOS was checked then MIRT knows who it is. Whisp Nov 2012 #86

Somehow I don't think that the MIRT knowledge with respect to identities is shared with others. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #87

I just looked in the Forum and Group Hosts folder and there was a SOP alert as well Whisp Nov 2012 #89

"regular scandal"? jtuck004 Nov 2012 #48

Sounds like the Business Plot of 1934 SteveG Nov 2012 #26

There was an attempt during FDR in the thirties still_one Nov 2012 #29

Wow! I never heard about that before! And it was TRUE! Squinch Nov 2012 #71

DU is the best place to learn real history Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #135

Seriously! Squinch Nov 2012 #140

is Petraeus the target of this plot? Enrique Nov 2012 #32

or a pawn n/t Randomthought Nov 2012 #65

I'm betting pawn. Squinch Nov 2012 #76

I'm betting coconspirator. 2naSalit Nov 2012 #88

You're on! Think we'll ever learn the truth? Squinch Nov 2012 #98

I honestly don't know 2naSalit Nov 2012 #113

I say co-conspirator too demhottie Nov 2012 #116

I feel similar and have posted so. lalalu Nov 2012 #33

A coup? Or a desperate attempt by Republicans to win at all costs? Old and In the Way Nov 2012 #37

that is a coup.. PCIntern Nov 2012 #39

Yes, Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #108

It was planned as well as the Iraqi war. Ichingcarpenter Nov 2012 #44

Yes, I think it was a last ditch end-run ... Myrina Nov 2012 #58

The thought 2naSalit Nov 2012 #90

I'm skeptical, but still realize that every player in this is a dedicated right-winger. Zen Democrat Nov 2012 #41

Perhaps matt819 Nov 2012 #45

I think Benghazi started it sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #49

Its not coincidence, I agree but chain of cause n effect is convoluted aletier_v Nov 2012 #52

Our Shadow Government triplepoint Nov 2012 #56

ROFLMAO. Yeah, everything I don't prove false is otherwise true. ROFLMAO. Coyotl Nov 2012 #57

Glad we made it past that pesky evidence thingy cthulu2016 Nov 2012 #59

Sex has ever been used to bring down leaders, even governments. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #62

I am so confused... TheAmbivalante Nov 2012 #63

More like seven minutes in the office. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #66

there is much more to this than Petraeus' little pickle Whisp Nov 2012 #94

I have NO fuckin' idea what you're on about. harmonicon Nov 2012 #68

PCIntern, I've tuned out because the talking heads play this as just a sex scandal... Hekate Nov 2012 #74

This country lost "one of its most brilliant generals"? Brilliant? In what way exactly? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #78

A number of interviewees have gone over his resume of accomplishments Hekate Nov 2012 #82

So the unanimous consensus of unnamed and unidentifiable persons establishes him as brilliant? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #91

Just a sex scandal? Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #109

I'd speculated from the first hour Blue_Tires Nov 2012 #79

You're right, and you wanna know why...Repukes are keeping quiet about this... joeybee12 Nov 2012 #81

FuxNoose 2naSalit Nov 2012 #96

I think you are probably right. I find the intransigence of Democratic Party's leadership Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #92

Need more information. The Doctor. Nov 2012 #93

Something I found yesterday 2naSalit Nov 2012 #101

Which "famous Romney press conference" are you talking about? Bucky Nov 2012 #104

After Benghazi nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #107

1933, that is what I am thinking nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #106

Fuzzy memory I've got about one of the 'party boys' Mc Mike Nov 2012 #148

Very few people took note of the fact that two-star Army general Al Haig was appointed as.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #110

Feinstein was just interviewed on CNN... AntiFascist Nov 2012 #111

love that movie stillcool Nov 2012 #115

Romney thought it was in the bag Caretha Nov 2012 #121

Isn't hypothesizing the same as speculating? Turborama Nov 2012 #119

No, hypothesizing is not the same as speculating. magical thyme Nov 2012 #126

Thanks, m t. + 10 million. I wanted to do a 'sum up' like this, but Mc Mike Nov 2012 #156

Original reason for investigation sandyshoes17 Nov 2012 #122

Jill Kelley told her FBI friend that the emails involved Petraeus. TwilightGardener Nov 2012 #125

I have always thought... PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #123

7 days in may? workinclasszero Nov 2012 #124

Press TV: 5 recent surprise resignations by generals & admirals mean Obama just shut down a Coup... MinM Nov 2012 #130

@ABC: 6 Generals Behaving Badly .. #Petraeus MinM Nov 2012 #136

We are up to six now? nadinbrzezinski Nov 2012 #145

"one is going to have to prove ot me that this, or some version of this did not occur." " former9thward Nov 2012 #131

I usually agree with you, but... MicaelS Nov 2012 #134

PC--take a look at this video--- msanthrope Nov 2012 #149

Continued in new thread, with even more possibilities, re: Coup: WinkyDink Nov 2012 #155