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112. How did asking the Republicans

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:23 PM

Nov 2012

for permission to govern the last time around? As I recall the Democrats got their asses handed to them because the base quit when they watched the Administration grovel at the extremist Republicans' feet.
If they do it again I quit, and don't believe I'm alone on this.
The Democrats may not have won the House, but they got more total votes than the radical extremist Republicans, and that is a better reflection of the will of the American voter.
First things first: Let the Bush tax cuts expire and let the extremists on the right explain to the 98% why they have to protect the 2%. The "job creator" bullshit doesn't work any more.
The Republicans are down, and now is the time to implant a boot heel in their backs. Trying to negotiate with the criminally insane is like pissing into the wind.

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The Democratic Party is walking on thin ice.... [View all] kentuck Nov 2012 OP

I am not quite as discouraged as you are hollysmom Nov 2012 #1

I wish they consulted with him -- even just to have another viewpoint on gateley Nov 2012 #27

Agreed liberalmike27 Nov 2012 #57

If you think David gregory is a liberal DonCoquixote Nov 2012 #151

"managing liberalism to the point where it does not threaten the powers that be" RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #159

Verywell said. Thank you. n/t truedelphi Nov 2012 #202

I just got done... butterfly77 Nov 2012 #94

Agree -- I've contacted my reps, too, just saying WE call the shots, now, don't back down! gateley Nov 2012 #137

wish... kardonb Nov 2012 #100

Did you mean to respond to my post? gateley Nov 2012 #138

The President needs to use Krugman as an economic adviser. nt ladjf Nov 2012 #177

You are aware that the new Congress won't take office until next year? MineralMan Nov 2012 #2

There is no need for him to be making any concessions.... kentuck Nov 2012 #4

You know, I don't remember him making any concessions. MineralMan Nov 2012 #16

If you wait until it's done, it's too late. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #105

If you assume that he will do it, with no indication that he will, MineralMan Nov 2012 #111

Assume the best and be slaughtered along with the rest of the sheep. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #117

My friend, you're welcome to your point of view, but MineralMan Nov 2012 #119

Yeah, I don't share his negativity and I think the President knows what to do. xtraxritical Nov 2012 #122

And you are free to ignore what has gone before and pretend that it won't again. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #145

Who appointed the members of the Cat-Food Commission? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #127

I know of no Commission with that particular name. MineralMan Nov 2012 #132

You are unfamiliar with the "Cat-Food Commission"? Really? AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #139

Ya think? Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #146

Actually we have lots of indication that he will Doctor_J Nov 2012 #164

The great majority of which is the same as the new one. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #31

As is usually the case. Only a third of the Senate is up every two years, MineralMan Nov 2012 #49

I thought we blew it last time AgingAmerican Nov 2012 #3

I second that motion. go west young man Nov 2012 #86

And not enough of us were out there still campaigning for our core values. Yes you would think our Overseas Nov 2012 #204

Nothing has happened yet. ProSense Nov 2012 #5

I think people are pissed off at the language and the actions of many Democrats... kentuck Nov 2012 #7

"Why are we so quick to soothe their hurt feelings?" randome Nov 2012 #19

+++1,000 recs JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #62

You cant compromise with terrorists. Republicans are terrorists. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #69

No, people hate it when you pretend to talk sense, but it actually isn't. Hissyspit Nov 2012 #124

and Clinton even worked with Newt brokechris Nov 2012 #169

no, it's not, & there is no deal that needs to be made before Jan. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #81

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #84

Obama said "elections have consequences and I won" to a bunch of republicans Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #28

We would all like to think so... kentuck Nov 2012 #30

I wish ya'll would just listen to yourselves.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #36

What did anyone expect from this election? kentuck Nov 2012 #39

Honestly. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #51

Or tin foil! n/t sheshe2 Nov 2012 #87

I was trying to be polite Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #95

It's been SEVEN FREAKING DAYS and Congress isn't even in session yet! WHAT do you want??? George II Nov 2012 #52

Exactly! kentuck Nov 2012 #63

Name names or STFU emulatorloo Nov 2012 #90

Did you see Schumer on C-SPAN? kentuck Nov 2012 #93

I'm getting more noise from you than signal emulatorloo Nov 2012 #99

Here is a post from a couple of hours ago... kentuck Nov 2012 #102

Thanks! I edited my post above to clarify. emulatorloo Nov 2012 #104

I agree with you that the Repubs have nothing... kentuck Nov 2012 #110

I don't really know what you're talking about, they're just talking generalities, did you hear... George II Nov 2012 #141

Did you see Obama's comments today, or his press secretary's comments? George II Nov 2012 #148

But he has yet to prove it. AlbertCat Nov 2012 #135

Can you provide examples? demwing Nov 2012 #33

Just HOW are we "so quick to soothe their hurt feeling"??? George II Nov 2012 #44

I think YOU are pissed off, but not many other "people" are pissed off...you're projecting George II Nov 2012 #149

If we wait until it's done, it will be too late. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #107

And what have they done since last Tuesday? sinkingfeeling Nov 2012 #6

Exactly. young but wise Nov 2012 #14

They haven't ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #15

Nothing....and that is worrisome.... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #29

I wonder how these people who want to tread lightly will feel when Republicans,... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #78

I'll withhold rage until there's a reason for it... nt Comrade_McKenzie Nov 2012 #8

I would prefer to let them know how I feel right now... kentuck Nov 2012 #10

Then let them know. They aren't reading DU, I'm sure. MineralMan Nov 2012 #17

Have you written to your congressman or senator? Or just posting on DU will get it done? George II Nov 2012 #155

what mandate? underoath Nov 2012 #9

332 - 206 ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #11

You're not understanding me though. underoath Nov 2012 #162

Why would it matter? ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #163

but less of one than he had in 2008!!! underoath Nov 2012 #165

He has every bit as much of a mandate as GWB ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #167

Because lower numbers means less of a mandate. underoath Nov 2012 #168

Who cares besides you and ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #170

I care because people are talking as if Obama won by a larger margin this time when he did not!!! underoath Nov 2012 #174

I get it and think it's silly ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #190

Your concern is noted underoath Nov 2012 #195

That's the 5th time you've posted that Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #172

because people dont realize that there is less of a mandate now than there was before. underoath Nov 2012 #173

So what do you want us to do? Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #176

stop talking about how there is a mandate. underoath Nov 2012 #182

No... ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #191

Who the hell cares about bush? underoath Nov 2012 #196

In 2004 GWB announced he had a mandate ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #194

Who cares about what bush thought he had. underoath Nov 2012 #197

GWB was wrong. Telly Savalas Nov 2012 #211

But Obama isn't. ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #213

How many times can you post the same thing? Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #171

A dirty little secret of Nov 6th 2012 - truedelphi Nov 2012 #203

exactly. So like I said, President Obama had more of a mandate in 2008 than he does today. underoath Nov 2012 #207

OBAMA HAS A MANDATE - way more than W's appointment by the court or Care Acutely Nov 2012 #154

Less of a mandate now than he had in 2008. underoath Nov 2012 #166

That doesn't mean he has no mandate. ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #192

How does it mean he has a mandate? underoath Nov 2012 #198

Because.... ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #199

What mandate? Because bush said he had one so now we must make sure everyone knows underoath Nov 2012 #206

I didn't dispute that. ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #210

I agree. O shows an inclination to throw it all away on Compromises and Syria-Iran. leveymg Nov 2012 #12

This is so discouraging. kentuck Nov 2012 #13

We all projected our own hopes for change onto him. This has happened twice, already. leveymg Nov 2012 #18

The lame duck session of all three branches of government is going to be hard to watch until January Cleita Nov 2012 #20

The President said this morning... kentuck Nov 2012 #21

Like I said it's going to be hard to watch until January Cleita Nov 2012 #24

Eric(Anal Leakage) Cantor The Wizard Nov 2012 #115

the payroll tax cuts shouldn't be extended. BlueMan Votes Nov 2012 #92

The Republicans are walking on thin ice gravity Nov 2012 #22

Yes. kentuck Nov 2012 #23

Because Americans want compromise gravity Nov 2012 #25

Americans do not want compromise. Americans want an improved economy. yardwork Nov 2012 #34

Americans want a balanced approach to fixing the economy gravity Nov 2012 #66

You are mistaken. Americans are not interested in the process. They are interested in outcomes. yardwork Nov 2012 #70

Well said, yardwork. kentuck Nov 2012 #72

Then stop attacking Obama on the process gravity Nov 2012 #157

What? Where have I attacked Obama? Nice accusation there. yardwork Nov 2012 #158

No, YOU stop telling people to shut up about important policies woo me with science Nov 2012 #212

Yes "balanced approach", like cutting defense spending and taxing the wealthy. NOT REDUCE SS AND rhett o rick Nov 2012 #71

You mean like in 2010? Doctor_J Nov 2012 #140

I agree with you. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #26

+1 treestar Nov 2012 #60

Don't say that. We're supposed to ignore the Republicans and just shit on Democrats. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #82

You're right, Kentuck. yardwork Nov 2012 #32

We've already won for the next four years The Second Stone Nov 2012 #35

No, we've won for the next 12 - 16 months at best. Failing to press that advantage to good purpose Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #109

I don't know what you are talking about. elleng Nov 2012 #37

Just one week since election day mac56 Nov 2012 #38

I was thinking the exact same thing lol Lilyeye Nov 2012 #153

It is the eternal need of some for perfect purity. Like voting for Nader in Florida 2000. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #184

why loyalkydem Nov 2012 #40

Post-election analysis NHDEMFORLIFE Nov 2012 #41

Good advice but.... kentuck Nov 2012 #46

I agree NHDEMFORLIFE Nov 2012 #73

Got anything specific about their actions, words, proposed compromise, etc? George II Nov 2012 #42

NOBODY WilliamPitt Nov 2012 #43

Good advice. 2naSalit Nov 2012 #56

Seriously. Jennicut Nov 2012 #76

Those of us who don't want a mass murder compromise enacted can't afford that eridani Nov 2012 #205

the Republicans never hesitate to claim a mandate - no matter what and move aggressively. Democrats Douglas Carpenter Nov 2012 #45

Hear hear!! Exactly my sentiments. Missn-Hitch Nov 2012 #47

It'd be great if the Dems could rule by fiat. JohnnyRingo Nov 2012 #48

The OP is proposing that we get ready to sit on our asses in 2014 and give republicans bluestate10 Nov 2012 #186

I have been working a lot. JNelson6563 Nov 2012 #50

Nothing has happened. Other than the pre-emptive frothing that happens on occasion on DU. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #187

Oh hell... zaj Nov 2012 #53

Just don't deny that this feeling is there... kentuck Nov 2012 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author AtomicKitten Nov 2012 #55

The Democratic Party did not get the House back treestar Nov 2012 #58

To get the HOR back we need to stand firm like the people want. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #74

they need to look at 2010 evilhime Nov 2012 #59

So you think 2010 a good thing? treestar Nov 2012 #61

you heaven05 Nov 2012 #64

Stop it just Stop the noise! sheshe2 Nov 2012 #65

Well it's been a week sharp_stick Nov 2012 #67

I will not take getting ... 99Forever Nov 2012 #68

The Right Wing wants you to fear them. The only authority they have is what you give them. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #75

I'm confused. Did I miss something in the news? drm604 Nov 2012 #77

No, they aren't. NYC Liberal Nov 2012 #79

Yes, it's best if... kentuck Nov 2012 #83

I have no fucking clue what or who you are talking about emulatorloo Nov 2012 #80

The John2 Nov 2012 #97

I love this discussion RepublicansRZombies Nov 2012 #85

This is the way I see it! ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #88

Exactly! kentuck Nov 2012 #91

The rebublics are the one on the edge... ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #98

If not now, when? Will we get action or the usual "compromises" and excuses? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2012 #89

Agreed Hutzpa Nov 2012 #96

Off the cliff. JEB Nov 2012 #101

The fiscal cliff JEB Nov 2012 #103

It has always been billh58 Nov 2012 #106

What's a PUMA? All I get from the urban dictionary is a pre-menopausal woman? Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #113

During the Primary Elections billh58 Nov 2012 #120

OIC, thank you. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #143

Republicans are still delusional Aerows Nov 2012 #108

How did asking the Republicans The Wizard Nov 2012 #112

+1 I like how you're thinking. n/t Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #114

Perfect recount of how things have proceeded JEB Nov 2012 #144

Oh, you're definitely not alone Oilwellian Nov 2012 #147

Reid: We Agree On How To Resolve 97-98 Percent Of Fiscal Cliff ProSense Nov 2012 #116

I agree. Autumn Nov 2012 #118

Totally disagree horsedoc Nov 2012 #121

That sounds like a FOX analogy... kentuck Nov 2012 #125

Here's the thing. A major motivator behind the independant vote was they saw Obama Ed Suspicious Nov 2012 #123

You are exactly right. I see a coming 10 year battle to get everything Progressives want. bluestate10 Nov 2012 #188

Oh please... like others have said, nothing has happened yet. Also OKNancy Nov 2012 #126

The future is now... kentuck Nov 2012 #129

Fancy saying, but also an empty one. Moderate and Independent voters gave the President his bluestate10 Nov 2012 #189

Damn lillypaddle Nov 2012 #128

You're right... kentuck Nov 2012 #130

Calm down already. babylonsister Nov 2012 #131

I will look for your posts in a couple of weeks... kentuck Nov 2012 #133

One of my pet slogans is... babylonsister Nov 2012 #134

It's a dirty job... kentuck Nov 2012 #136

Kick&Recommended... butterfly77 Nov 2012 #142

"They are about to piss away the next election ... Summer Hathaway Nov 2012 #150

with you on this. too many true believers star-gazing with happy smiles, for comfort. marasinghe Nov 2012 #152

Doesn't it seem early for turds in the punch bowl? AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #156

I agree! ..... THX for posting that! meti57b Nov 2012 #160

K&R woo me with science Nov 2012 #161

More kabuki. Octafish Nov 2012 #175

huh? Dyedinthewoolliberal Nov 2012 #178

the next election is less than two years away.... madrchsod Nov 2012 #179

Almost nothing they do for the next 6-10 months matters very much toward the next election. hughee99 Nov 2012 #180

I have no illusions. I voted for the Supreme Court which is significant. I also am not as clear as still_one Nov 2012 #181

There you go again. What democrats need is for us to give them unchallenged control of the bluestate10 Nov 2012 #183

Link please? NightOwwl Nov 2012 #185

Here's what I think Kentuck is saying Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #193

Obama, Axelrod and the rest know what they're doing. rudycantfail Nov 2012 #200

Yup, I'm afraid that their caving in is by design rather than by ineptness Lydia Leftcoast Nov 2012 #201

+100000000 woo me with science Nov 2012 #208

K&R woo me with science Nov 2012 #209