With our food systems on the verge of collapse, it's the plutocrats v life on Earth

[Hortensis]

22. At our age we're not interested in trying to survive a complete

breakdown over a major region that doesn't recover, which I don't expect to happen anyway.

There are a lot of things that could cause partial, temporary but potentially devastating breakdowns, though, and they're even rationally "expectable" over the foreseeable future.

Of course the government would not be able to come to everyone's rescue before things got seriously uncomfortable due to regional breakdown, and it could take years to regain our current levels of comfort and security. Forewarned should be at least somewhat forearmed.

So agree that pooling resources is primary. There're enormous fundamental reasons humans live and travel in groups. Here in the south, but elsewhere also, many lives are already organized around cohesive church groups. Other social groups of nearby family and friends, of course.

I believe I read during the Obama administration that all counties or whatever were required or asked to come up with plans for such emergencies and to have laws in place to meet them. I'm afraid I don't know what's happened since in our area, not in any city limits. Waiting to be surprised maybe.