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soldierant

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33. JP2 was a conservative catholic

Reply to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:14 PM

Jul 2023

and conservatism seems always to empower evil, be it in the church or the state, John XXIII and JP1 were more like Francis. Both had very short papacies (to some, suspiciously short.) John accomplished Vatican II but didn't live much longer and JP1 didn't live long enough to really accomplish anything. My impression was that neither would have tolerated abuse but I have no hard evidence and certainly could be wrong.

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When Kris Kristofferson believed and stood by Sinead [View all] Malmsy Jul 2023 OP

Kris was a Rhodes Scholar. twodogsbarking Jul 2023 #1

This I didn't know. n/t MontanaMama Jul 2023 #11

And a captain in the Army Rangers geardaddy Jul 2023 #20

He is someone I always listen to. Might learn something. twodogsbarking Jul 2023 #21

His intelligence has always showed. BlackSkimmer Jul 2023 #30

I fell in love with Sinead... AZ8theist Jul 2023 #2

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When my father met Pope John Paul, he gave him a similar message. His holiness pretended not FailureToCommunicate Jul 2023 #9

Good for you father for speaking up. MLAA Jul 2023 #16

JP2 was a conservative catholic soldierant Jul 2023 #33

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I agree. Abigail_Adams Jul 2023 #8

Another agreement here! ShazzieB Jul 2023 #36

In this world of Aldeans, be a Kristofferson. Murphyb849 Jul 2023 #5

Nice. FailureToCommunicate Jul 2023 #10

+1 MLAA Jul 2023 #17

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Strong words from Kris! Botany Jul 2023 #6

Why am I not surprised? Thanks for sharing this Botany. As horrible as it is... littlemissmartypants Jul 2023 #31

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I saw this movie with a friend of mine who is a devout Catholic.. Deuxcents Jul 2023 #39

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Joni Mitchell also had something to say about this in her fine song Magdalene Laundries: yonder Jul 2023 #38

I saw that, and have never forgotten it. yardwork Jul 2023 #7

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That is very moving and beautiful. Mickju Jul 2023 #13

K; R CatWoman Jul 2023 #14

Okay, I'm crying now. Aristus Jul 2023 #15

Always been a fan of Kris Kristofferson. Music Man Jul 2023 #18

He was the authentic, real Texan. A kind, gentleman. NCjack Jul 2023 #37

Where was Dylan at that tribute? mahannah Jul 2023 #19

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