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meadowlander

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38. Some people like going in to work. They chose their job with their eyes open
Sat Aug 5, 2023, 11:42 PM
Aug 2023

knowing that going in to work was part of the deal. Most people have a choice to do something else if they don't like that deal and weigh it up against different salaries, more education time and cost, having to move, having to do something unpleasant or massively stressful, etc.

I've worked at home full time for about three years and the majority of people I work with still choose to go in to the office some or most of the time because they like it. They like the social elements of it, they like getting out of the house, they don't have space to work at home comfortably, they find it easier to stay focused around other people doing a similar job, they're bucking for a promotion and want to network, etc.

People become doctors and nurses and paramedics and firefighters and HR bods and customer service reps because they like people and enjoy being around them. More power to them. They chose those jobs knowing that they couldn't be done from home.

For me, working in an open plan office was literal torture. So yes, I spent 30 years working my ass off with the primary objective of getting a job that would pay enough for me to live independently and be able to work from home. I gave up basically any social life for 20 years and the ability to buy a house or car before I was 40 and the chance to have kids because that was my priority in life.

I don't think my WFH office job makes me superior to anyone else, but neither do I think the work and sacrifice I put into getting it should be ignored in the name of "well if this college kid manning the front desk or this guy making widgets has to come in, I guess everyone has to come in, even if the job doesn't actually require it, or it's not fair".

I worked in a factory making ski poles to pay part of my way through college. It was fine. I enjoyed it. But I wanted to work from home more. So I made a choice to bust my ass for 30 years to put myself in a position so that I could. And there is no reason on earth why anyone else in the same position with the same priorities couldn't do the same thing if they wanted to instead of complaining about how unfair and demoralising it is.

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I'm torn on this one. bamagal62 Aug 2023 #1
Workers save money and time working from home, in 20 yrs there's no doubt those who can uponit7771 Aug 2023 #10
I guess that means the "best workers" don't work in any jobs that can't be done remotely MichMan Aug 2023 #13
Those who can't aren't included in the claim uponit7771 Aug 2023 #49
Can't retro fit bldg's from office to residential - wholly different construction type Hestia Aug 2023 #30
Unnnnn, where there's a will there's a way (video of office to residential process) uponit7771 Aug 2023 #47
In the middle of a climate crisis, no reason to make people commute who don't need to commute. meadowlander Aug 2023 #15
I'm not; it's bullshit anarch Aug 2023 #43
"more or less needlessly", +1 ... A manager doesn't need the other 3 senses to manage effectively .. uponit7771 Aug 2023 #48
I'm not. :) Like you, it's a pragmatic decision first, not an Hortensis Aug 2023 #63
Bad move Joe CanonRay Aug 2023 #2
+1 n/t area51 Aug 2023 #54
Exactly. nt TxGuitar Aug 2023 #55
"increased productivity from in-person work" Sympthsical Aug 2023 #3
+1 Celerity Aug 2023 #9
Or managers realizing they are not needed. Xolodno Aug 2023 #17
Precisely Sympthsical Aug 2023 #19
+1 Hugin Aug 2023 #29
This has more to do with corporate TxGuitar Aug 2023 #56
This just burns a lotta extra carbon, Joe ... (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #4
Yes! We need more cars on the road! leftstreet Aug 2023 #5
Return to work intelpug Aug 2023 #6
It is very demoralizing to those whose jobs can't be done at home. MichMan Aug 2023 #14
People have a choice about where they work. meadowlander Aug 2023 #20
I'm specifically referring to jobs where the blue collar workers have to be there in person MichMan Aug 2023 #32
Some people like going in to work. They chose their job with their eyes open meadowlander Aug 2023 #38
Similar to jobs that don't pay as much as they should, I suppose MichMan Aug 2023 #39
They can unionise and fight for fair wages. meadowlander Aug 2023 #40
RN of 40 years TxGuitar Aug 2023 #57
Then they're not doing it right GenThePerservering Aug 2023 #16
Do they not have instant messaging? Oneironaut Aug 2023 #22
I know right? meadowlander Aug 2023 #25
I agree with this MichMan Aug 2023 #33
It's because the commercial real estate market is imploding. roamer65 Aug 2023 #7
Exactly TxGuitar Aug 2023 #58
In the San Francisco Bay Area Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #8
LOL! Get a HORSE! Xolodno Aug 2023 #12
BART is always whining anyway Sympthsical Aug 2023 #45
WFH is here to stay. Dulcinea Aug 2023 #11
Agree. But I also think the fabric bamagal62 Aug 2023 #18
Imo, there are no friends at the office. Oneironaut Aug 2023 #24
Completely agree TxGuitar Aug 2023 #59
+1 Arazi Aug 2023 #66
So to add, bamagal62 Aug 2023 #21
and I'm thinking for career advancement In It to Win It Aug 2023 #23
This bamagal62 Aug 2023 #35
My daughter is a CPA just went back to office Tree Lady Aug 2023 #41
If being physically present is necessary or important, BlueSpot Aug 2023 #26
Very good point. n/t Hugin Aug 2023 #28
This MichMan Aug 2023 #34
good point...and pay for the commute time too anarch Aug 2023 #44
People that choose to live far from work deserve higher wages than those living closer? MichMan Aug 2023 #52
I guess not--maybe require them to either work remote or live within a certain distance then? anarch Aug 2023 #61
I know whenever I hired into a job, it was my choice where I lived, not my employers MichMan Aug 2023 #67
+1 leftstreet Aug 2023 #53
If I'm an employer and I hired someone for an in person job in 2016 MichMan Aug 2023 #68
"the benefit of increased productivity from in-person work" Hugin Aug 2023 #27
I'm sorry, but not everyone is fit to work from home ecstatic Aug 2023 #31
See. This is what I'm talking about. bamagal62 Aug 2023 #36
2 things immediately come to mind orleans Aug 2023 #37
This is a strategic defensive move on the part of the Biden Admin. harumph Aug 2023 #42
To be honest... Hugin Aug 2023 #46
This message was self-deleted by its author Autumn Aug 2023 #50
Relationship development is more difficult, in my experience SYFROYH Aug 2023 #51
I must be in the minority TxGuitar Aug 2023 #60
Im talking about collaborative working relationships. SYFROYH Aug 2023 #62
Why not at least say hybrid? FFS. themaguffin Aug 2023 #64
This is not an ideological issue for me, but a functional one. Hortensis Aug 2023 #65
This is another great example of how our POTUS is completely in touch with reality. BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #69
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