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paleotn

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47. The ones that survived were part of the peace party.
Sun Aug 6, 2023, 12:56 PM
Aug 2023

Many were framing a rather embarrassing and difficult situation. Doing what in their culture was the unthinkable. In many cases they told the USSBS what they wanted them to hear. Most of the hard liners committed ritual suicide, but we have their writings to backup their point of view and reams of research since has shown your view to be rather simplistic and simply wrong. You just don't understand Japanese militarism and Japanese culture. Maybe you should study it more.

You never answered my question about why the Allies went to the trouble of modifying the Potsdam Declaration to keep the Showa Emperor if the Japanese where so eager to surrender on any terms? It originally demanded UNCONDITIONAL surrender. Hmm?

As for Pearl, how many civilian Filipinos where murdered in Manila as US troops advanced in the Luzon invasion? How many Malays and other nationalities throughout Japan's smash and grab empire were murdered? Oh, but I'm sure that's all the fault of the US as well. Smacks of the excuse domestic abusers routinely use...she made me do it. Just saying.

And don't "school" me on WW2 history. That's condescending to the point of reporting your post as an attack. When your as old and well read as I am, then you can "school" me. Have you stood at the rail at parade rest and rendered honors to the USS Arizona while transiting Pearl. I have. Have you?

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Wow, That's Weird! ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #49
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Surprising ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #63
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I could remember sitting under the desk during the sirens, and thinking... Bluethroughu Aug 2023 #15
IN THE KING OF PRUSSIA: THE TRIAL OF THE PLOWSHARES 8 stuck in the middle Aug 2023 #4
The community loudspeaker alarm in my Japanese neighborhood went off this morning to betsuni Aug 2023 #6
Neither bomb was necessary 303squadron Aug 2023 #9
Yeah but what about Pearl Harbor? jimfields33 Aug 2023 #13
Not an EQUAL comparison 303squadron Aug 2023 #16
Once again, you're imposing western logic on Japanese thinking at the time. paleotn Aug 2023 #23
Japanese thinking 303squadron Aug 2023 #37
The ones that survived were part of the peace party. paleotn Aug 2023 #47
This right here. MarineCombatEngineer Aug 2023 #48
How many Chinese died? VGNonly Aug 2023 #43
Oh, so we forced the Japanese to commit war crimes. Is that it? paleotn Aug 2023 #45
Battle of Manila VGNonly Aug 2023 #46
No, they weren't. I took two imperial rescripts from Hirohito to end it. paleotn Aug 2023 #51
The Kyujo Incident. VGNonly Aug 2023 #53
With all due respect, it was a total war. Happy Hoosier Aug 2023 #42
Really? paleotn Aug 2023 #21
I don't agree...it would have been Okinawa all over again. They would not surrender and would Demsrule86 Aug 2023 #29
When such information such as that found sarisataka Aug 2023 #52
The most influential event on the boomer generation happened before we were born Walleye Aug 2023 #10
The two greatest acts of racism were dropped on Japanese innocents...war crimes, unprosecuted. Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #11
The appropos day for this: lastlib Aug 2023 #12
RIP Professor Dr. Strange Aug 2023 #58
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They Did This Song On... ProfessorGAC Aug 2023 #40
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