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In reply to the discussion: Was Merrick Garland's Approach Correct All Along? [View all]Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)79. No it has not been delayed.DOJ didn't fail to investigate Trump. It's a fairy tale debunked long ago
and way too many times. And if you were to read the OP before responding, there would have been no need to debunk it once again. And you would have realized that Jack Smith's pace of investigation is no different from that of Garland.
But even though I am sick and tired of doing this over and over, here it is once again, from one of my earlier posts, links to sources and all:
The oft repeated accusations of DOJ not investigating Trump, which is based in large part on a WP article widely derided for its shoddy journalism or outright fact-free speculations, is a fairy tale. All evidence suggests that the DOJ investigation into Trump has been ongoing since even before Garland took office (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/us/politics/justice-department-trump-capitol.html), and way before the J6 Committee came up with their criminal referrals in December of 2022. In March 2022, WP reported that "In the past two months, a federal grand jury in Washington has issued subpoena requests to some officials in former president Donald Trumps orbit who assisted in planning, funding and executing the Jan. 6 rally", eaning the subpoenas went out as early as January 2022. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/30/jan-6-fbi-subpoena-justice/). In April 2022, "Sources confirm to Reuters that the U.S. Justice Department was investigating Trump's removal of official presidential records from the White House." (https://www.voanews.com/a/timeline-of-the-trump-documents-inquiry-/6734453.html). In July 2022 DOJ was already investigating Trump himself (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/30/jan-6-fbi-subpoena-justice/), and has not ruled out charging him (https://www.businessinsider.com/merrick-garland-hasnt-ruled-out-charging-trump-over-january-6-2022-7). In May of 2022, DOJ subpoenas National Archives for Trump's classified docs. On August 8,2022, FBI raids Mar-a Lago for classified docs (https://www.voanews.com/a/timeline-of-the-trump-documents-inquiry-/6734453.html).
All of the above happened before Jack Smith took over the Trump part of the DOJ investigation, which was by then well on its way, and THIS is what is not debatable. All of the evidence collected by DOJ since 1/6, 2021 was given to Smith by DOJ.
All of the above happened before Jack Smith took over the Trump part of the DOJ investigation, which was by then well on its way, and THIS is what is not debatable. All of the evidence collected by DOJ since 1/6, 2021 was given to Smith by DOJ.
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=18170012
And then, of course, even if there were delays, which there weren't, and if they did affect the timing of the prosecution, which they do not, how would that increase Trump's chances of winning the election?
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Also, under TFG (and AG Jeff Sessions) numerous divisions of DOJ were ignored (Civil Rights)
Rhiannon12866
Aug 2023
#48
I've given little to no thought of Garland especially since Jack Smith came on the scene. Garland is
SheilaAnn
Aug 2023
#2
Obama thought Garland would be conservative enough that Repugs wouldn't block him.
BWdem4life
Aug 2023
#112
I know everyone wished this would happen sooner, but in reality, it couldn't ...
ificandream
Aug 2023
#5
I believe Cannon will be steamrolled by the upper courts if she presents as a bubble in the asphalt.
erronis
Aug 2023
#9
No. How long did it take for Garland to name Smith? And how long did it take
dem4decades
Aug 2023
#10
So, if Trump didn't announce Garland would have done nothing? Two days after Trump declared
dem4decades
Aug 2023
#75
I'm pretty sure Biden didn't want anything to happen until after the Midterms
FakeNoose
Aug 2023
#52
I don't understand where all this hostility towards Garland is coming from
Beastly Boy
Aug 2023
#101
Refusing to accept being wrong. Part of black or white, good or bad, us vs them thinking.
betsuni
Aug 2023
#135
By your own admission, the extent of your observations leaves much to be desired.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2023
#51
I don't get you, but that's OK. I don't usually express my firm absolute 100% beliefs out of boredom
Beastly Boy
Aug 2023
#86
Memories ... once upon a time, Trump and Republicans liked Merrick Garland.
ificandream
Aug 2023
#23
Of course it was. There is just a loud contingent of whiners who live solely to whine.
tritsofme
Aug 2023
#27
There is a loud contingent who is incapable of disagreeing without name-calling
Scrivener7
Aug 2023
#47
My question was what role does Garland play in Trump winning or losing the '24 election
Beastly Boy
Aug 2023
#72
No it has not been delayed.DOJ didn't fail to investigate Trump. It's a fairy tale debunked long ago
Beastly Boy
Aug 2023
#79
I've never had a real problem with Garland. His careful approach was needed.
LymphocyteLover
Aug 2023
#36
You bet it was. He had a DoJ packed with TFG plants, and he got the investigations going.
marble falls
Aug 2023
#37
Are you under the impression that due process of law is no reason for not jumping the gun?
Beastly Boy
Aug 2023
#106
Jacob Chancley (the QAnon Shaman) was arrested on 1/9/21. Indicted on 1/11/21.
Beastly Boy
Aug 2023
#109
We can't rewrite history. We can't know everything that was happening behind the scenes.
Mr. Ected
Aug 2023
#107