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Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
1. The Constitution disagrees with you
Fri Aug 11, 2023, 08:10 AM
Aug 2023

The Eighth Amendment is not a difficult read:

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed

The right belongs to the accused.

In fact, the Constitution confers a number of rights upon the accused defendant in a criminal proceeding. It is up to the accused defendant in a criminal proceeding to exercise or waive those rights. Any right you have, you are free to not use, but the choice is up to you, not someone else.

People hate the Constitutional protections afforded to criminal defendants. It is the one most common unAmerican tendencies you find on both the right and the left.

To be clear - Do you know what protections the Constitution provides to victims of crimes? NONE. ZERO. ZILCH. Protecting victims of crimes is not the point.

I realize the Constitution, and the rights it secures to criminal defendants, is a pain in the ass. But posts like this OP inspire confidence that a broad coalition of Americans strongly support doing away with those rights.

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The Constitution disagrees with you Effete Snob Aug 2023 #1
Both are cited as per Jack Smith. It is not solely a defendants right to waive. There is a public boston bean Aug 2023 #3
As you and others say. Courts have a duty to safeguard all rights. Hortensis Aug 2023 #11
... William769 Aug 2023 #15
Yes, he has the "right"... kentuck Aug 2023 #4
Once he is convicted and then denied right to run or loses, watch how he tries to further extend any Wonder Why Aug 2023 #10
Trump RobinA Aug 2023 #26
This Is Pecksniffery, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2023 #5
The voters need to see what a traitor Trump is, gab13by13 Aug 2023 #7
Kind inthewind21 Aug 2023 #28
Perfectly stated, Sir! Thank you! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2023 #8
Thank you for enlarging my vocabulary with that delicious word. niyad Aug 2023 #12
It is a matter of best interest vs a constitutional right. Logic demands that the latter supercedes Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #13
To Quote Mr. Lincoln, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2023 #17
In legal matters, it is the judge's task to determine where a defendant's rights end and bad faith Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #22
In This Instance, Sir, It Begins When The Defendant's Lawyers Open Their Mouth The Magistrate Aug 2023 #23
Are you suggesting that the judge has the right to deprive the accused of legal counsel at will? Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #24
I Do Know, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2023 #25
It is not your intent I question. Beastly Boy Aug 2023 #27
Always the voice of reason. William769 Aug 2023 #16
I don't understand your tendency to use these cleverly camoflaged little put-downs, so much so 2live is 2fly Aug 2023 #21
Shut him up. Kid Berwyn Aug 2023 #2
Only because he's a treasonous putin puppet tax cheating felon. rubbersole Aug 2023 #6
And a Gag order! loquaciouslimey Aug 2023 #9
He is not a common citizen William769 Aug 2023 #14
Thugs Are Citizens Too, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2023 #18
I agree with most of your statement. William769 Aug 2023 #19
Fair Enough, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2023 #20
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