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unc70

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39. F-16s are still on the needed list

Reply to maxsolomon (Reply #37)

Wed Aug 16, 2023, 05:14 PM

Aug 2023

Drones are helping, but control of the air is still lacking. Air superiority is still lacking

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In Ukraine War...Neither side is winning. Is it time to negotiate? [View all] Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 OP

we should be, and probably (i hope) are negotiating rampartc Aug 2023 #1

Bullshit................. Lovie777 Aug 2023 #2

It seems to me that Russia is losing. yardwork Aug 2023 #3

Russia has lost, they are only extending the war since they think there is a chance Trumpy can win FSogol Aug 2023 #4

But it's hard to argue that Ukraine is winning. maxsolomon Aug 2023 #34

That's why I phrased my response as I did. yardwork Aug 2023 #35

Who do you want to negotiate? Emile Aug 2023 #5

All Putin has to do is stand down and order his troops home. Torchlight Aug 2023 #6

The Ruble is tanking and Russia is losing. sarcasmo Aug 2023 #7

Exactly CanonRay Aug 2023 #15

I am as sensitive to any here about Russian propaganda, but read the opinion piece--it touches on hlthe2b Aug 2023 #8

Ukraine is giving it their all - we should do what we can to keep helping SalamanderSleeps Aug 2023 #9

Well, coming from you, I gained the impression you wanted Ukraine to surrender ages ago. Emrys Aug 2023 #10

Impressions can be in error, difficult to give up. Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #16

Impressions reinforced by repetition tend to prove accurate. n/t Emrys Aug 2023 #19

Nothing preventing Putin from ordering a withdrawal Kaleva Aug 2023 #11

Only if Putin negotiates in good faith, which so far he refuses to do. They are not at stalemate ... marble falls Aug 2023 #12

Putin can not be trusted, that's the quandary with negotiations, Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #17

So the response to that is to place the onus on the country that was invaded to negotiate a peace. BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #40

Ukraine is winning by not being overrun by their large neighbor. It is up to the Ukrainian Chainfire Aug 2023 #13

Ukraine negotiated with Russia in 1994 Clash City Rocker Aug 2023 #14

Negotiate what? How much of Ukraine Russia gets to keep? Fuck that shit. Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #18

The answer is right there sarisataka Aug 2023 #20

No. Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #21

Came here to say just as much to find out you said it first. Efilroft Sul Aug 2023 #23

Agree. Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #26

When I see people on the left agreeing with the talking points from the right (and Russia)... Efilroft Sul Aug 2023 #27

Yep. It's like they're leftists from the 1950s and Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #29

Here's an article about a certain gullible element of the left getting hoodwinked. Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #30

Thanks, Sky Jewels. Efilroft Sul Aug 2023 #31

Ha ha, yes. Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #33

What weapons is NATO holding out on? maxsolomon Aug 2023 #37

Missiles, yes. Efilroft Sul Aug 2023 #38

F-16s are still on the needed list unc70 Aug 2023 #39

It should be up to Ukraine, nobody should be pressing them to negotiate. Pompoy Aug 2023 #22

What's the weather like in Moscow? NT anamnua Aug 2023 #24

Stalemate does not necessarily create a reason to negotiate: WWI comes to mind andym Aug 2023 #25

Putin and Medvedev need to be bombed back to the stone ages. Initech Aug 2023 #28

Would Czechoslovakia be enough to appease Putin? Fozzledick Aug 2023 #32

no. fuck anyone who says negotiate Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #36