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ecstatic

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15. We're kind of in a bind though

Sun Aug 20, 2023, 02:09 AM

Aug 2023

Our constitution is so weak and without teeth, I think someone mentioned that the Supreme Court would have to get involved. Otherwise, it places some SOSs in the weird position of having to make unilateral decisions that affect a national election and their decisions could be challenged or even prosecuted later (it wouldn't be anywhere near as wacky as what trump's thugs tried to pull, but it could be twisted by the media to be equivalent).

The bottom line is the Senate republicans failed us. None of them are fit to serve. They should all be expelled. Well maybe mitt can stay.

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The 14th Amendment disqualifies Trump [View all] AverageOldGuy Aug 2023 OP

Wish it were that simple. Doubt that will prevent trump from taking office IF Silent Type Aug 2023 #1

He can't take office if he can't run for it dweller Aug 2023 #2

How do you propose preventing him from running if he's not convicted? Silent Type Aug 2023 #3

Read the 126 page law review paper. It is not a "weak amendment" WheelWalker Aug 2023 #8

Don't have any questions because-- in my uneducated opinion-- it ain't Silent Type Aug 2023 #9

I see you are determined WheelWalker Aug 2023 #13

Trump isn't the only one who NJCher Aug 2023 #16

Any Trump run WOULD be another coup attempt, just using the trappings... Beartracks Aug 2023 #11

He already is running for it Polybius Aug 2023 #31

Reality says otherwise. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #4

See my #21. wnylib Aug 2023 #22

One would THINK so... B.See Aug 2023 #5

I read the introduction and the last 2 pages scipan Aug 2023 #6

The law review paper is a MUST read... WheelWalker Aug 2023 #7

"pounding members of Congress" to do what? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #10

I guess call Congress right now and tell them something. yardwork Aug 2023 #36

We made an ask about that for the new week's Call to Action email. calimary Aug 2023 #12

This is very helpful NJCher Aug 2023 #18

Really? Well, thank you! calimary Aug 2023 #32

Damn straight ! I couldn't agree with you more, comrade. Thank you! WheelWalker Aug 2023 #26

Anybody who wants to - by all means, use it! Just direct it at YOUR reps. calimary Aug 2023 #34

I'm Oregon, myself. Down here in Oakland, north Douglas Co. WheelWalker Aug 2023 #43

We're in CD-5. Not far from the banks of the Willamette. calimary Aug 2023 #58

A simpler argument Tarzanrock Aug 2023 #14

Welcome to DU, Tarzanrock! calimary Aug 2023 #35

We're kind of in a bind though ecstatic Aug 2023 #15

Our Constitution is weak and without teeth? yardwork Aug 2023 #37

Indeed it does. Aussie105 Aug 2023 #17

The only ones left are trump supporters. NJCher Aug 2023 #19

I think reality is against a 14th Amendment solution AverageOldGuy Aug 2023 #20

According to Laurence Tribe, wnylib Aug 2023 #21

If the process unfolds that way, beware Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #27

I have not heard of any SoS claiming a disqualification, either. wnylib Aug 2023 #29

Ah, but Effete Snob Aug 2023 #42

Please read and become informed. WheelWalker Aug 2023 #25

Have you ever read the U.S. Constitution? yardwork Aug 2023 #39

I have read the Constitution. Have you read the law review paper? WheelWalker Aug 2023 #45

I'm not qualified to understand a law review paper. yardwork Aug 2023 #47

Post removed Post removed Aug 2023 #50

Problem is... I don't think he was charged with sedition or the like. Piratedog Aug 2023 #23

Neither criminal charges, nor a conviction are necessary. Section 3 is self-executing. WheelWalker Aug 2023 #24

Those are theories and opinions, not connected with the real world Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #28

+1 Effete Snob Aug 2023 #40

Don't forget the Federalist Society Zeitghost Aug 2023 #55

So anyone, at any time, can be accused of sedition and barred from office? yardwork Aug 2023 #38

As a candidate, Barack Obama said... Effete Snob Aug 2023 #41

There is quite a bit of authoritarian thinking in the country now. yardwork Aug 2023 #48

Have you read the law review paper? Your questions considered and answered. WheelWalker Aug 2023 #44

I wouldn't understand it. Could you explain in plain English? yardwork Aug 2023 #49

Post removed Post removed Aug 2023 #51

"Baude and Paulsen are two of the most prominent conservative constitutional scholars..." gulliver Aug 2023 #30

If crazy people want him to run, he should be able to Polybius Aug 2023 #33

None of that counts for squat BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #46

It depends Effete Snob Aug 2023 #53

waste of time without a legal conviction, and it would set a dangerous precedent without one Celerity Aug 2023 #52

kicking and recommending Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #54

I'm with you. I wonder who we have here at DU? triron Aug 2023 #56

Ha-Cha-Cha!!! We wrote about this at our Postcard Party today! calimary Aug 2023 #57

California Gov. Newsome is going to seek to have TFG stricken from the 2024 ballot LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #59

republicons have no regard for our constitution or our laws. spanone Aug 2023 #60

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is self executing but not self enforcing LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #61

I read and downloaded the article cited above. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #62