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Fiendish Thingy

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28. Those are theories and opinions, not connected with the real world

Sun Aug 20, 2023, 11:46 AM

Aug 2023

They exist as hypotheticals, as opposed to the facts regarding previous disqualifications, which did require convictions.

The 14th amendment was NOT “self executing” in any of those 8 cases.

Please. Be. Realistic.

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The 14th Amendment disqualifies Trump [View all] AverageOldGuy Aug 2023 OP

Wish it were that simple. Doubt that will prevent trump from taking office IF Silent Type Aug 2023 #1

He can't take office if he can't run for it dweller Aug 2023 #2

How do you propose preventing him from running if he's not convicted? Silent Type Aug 2023 #3

Read the 126 page law review paper. It is not a "weak amendment" WheelWalker Aug 2023 #8

Don't have any questions because-- in my uneducated opinion-- it ain't Silent Type Aug 2023 #9

I see you are determined WheelWalker Aug 2023 #13

Trump isn't the only one who NJCher Aug 2023 #16

Any Trump run WOULD be another coup attempt, just using the trappings... Beartracks Aug 2023 #11

He already is running for it Polybius Aug 2023 #31

Reality says otherwise. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #4

See my #21. wnylib Aug 2023 #22

One would THINK so... B.See Aug 2023 #5

I read the introduction and the last 2 pages scipan Aug 2023 #6

The law review paper is a MUST read... WheelWalker Aug 2023 #7

"pounding members of Congress" to do what? Effete Snob Aug 2023 #10

I guess call Congress right now and tell them something. yardwork Aug 2023 #36

We made an ask about that for the new week's Call to Action email. calimary Aug 2023 #12

This is very helpful NJCher Aug 2023 #18

Really? Well, thank you! calimary Aug 2023 #32

Damn straight ! I couldn't agree with you more, comrade. Thank you! WheelWalker Aug 2023 #26

Anybody who wants to - by all means, use it! Just direct it at YOUR reps. calimary Aug 2023 #34

I'm Oregon, myself. Down here in Oakland, north Douglas Co. WheelWalker Aug 2023 #43

We're in CD-5. Not far from the banks of the Willamette. calimary Aug 2023 #58

A simpler argument Tarzanrock Aug 2023 #14

Welcome to DU, Tarzanrock! calimary Aug 2023 #35

We're kind of in a bind though ecstatic Aug 2023 #15

Our Constitution is weak and without teeth? yardwork Aug 2023 #37

Indeed it does. Aussie105 Aug 2023 #17

The only ones left are trump supporters. NJCher Aug 2023 #19

I think reality is against a 14th Amendment solution AverageOldGuy Aug 2023 #20

According to Laurence Tribe, wnylib Aug 2023 #21

If the process unfolds that way, beware Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #27

I have not heard of any SoS claiming a disqualification, either. wnylib Aug 2023 #29

Ah, but Effete Snob Aug 2023 #42

Please read and become informed. WheelWalker Aug 2023 #25

Have you ever read the U.S. Constitution? yardwork Aug 2023 #39

I have read the Constitution. Have you read the law review paper? WheelWalker Aug 2023 #45

I'm not qualified to understand a law review paper. yardwork Aug 2023 #47

Post removed Post removed Aug 2023 #50

Problem is... I don't think he was charged with sedition or the like. Piratedog Aug 2023 #23

Neither criminal charges, nor a conviction are necessary. Section 3 is self-executing. WheelWalker Aug 2023 #24

Those are theories and opinions, not connected with the real world Fiendish Thingy Aug 2023 #28

+1 Effete Snob Aug 2023 #40

Don't forget the Federalist Society Zeitghost Aug 2023 #55

So anyone, at any time, can be accused of sedition and barred from office? yardwork Aug 2023 #38

As a candidate, Barack Obama said... Effete Snob Aug 2023 #41

There is quite a bit of authoritarian thinking in the country now. yardwork Aug 2023 #48

Have you read the law review paper? Your questions considered and answered. WheelWalker Aug 2023 #44

I wouldn't understand it. Could you explain in plain English? yardwork Aug 2023 #49

Post removed Post removed Aug 2023 #51

"Baude and Paulsen are two of the most prominent conservative constitutional scholars..." gulliver Aug 2023 #30

If crazy people want him to run, he should be able to Polybius Aug 2023 #33

None of that counts for squat BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #46

It depends Effete Snob Aug 2023 #53

waste of time without a legal conviction, and it would set a dangerous precedent without one Celerity Aug 2023 #52

kicking and recommending Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #54

I'm with you. I wonder who we have here at DU? triron Aug 2023 #56

Ha-Cha-Cha!!! We wrote about this at our Postcard Party today! calimary Aug 2023 #57

California Gov. Newsome is going to seek to have TFG stricken from the 2024 ballot LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #59

republicons have no regard for our constitution or our laws. spanone Aug 2023 #60

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is self executing but not self enforcing LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #61

I read and downloaded the article cited above. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2023 #62