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jmowreader

(53,483 posts)
49. This may qualify as a fraudulent conveyance
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 10:04 PM
Aug 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraudulent_conveyance

According to this article, certain acts are considered badges of fraud in determining if a conveyance is fraudulent:

becoming insolvent because of the transfer
lack or inadequacy of consideration
family or insider relationship among parties
the retention of possession, benefits or use of the property
the existence of the threat of litigation
the financial situation of the debtor at the time of, or after, transfer
the existence of a cumulative effect of a series of transactions after the onset of debtor's financial difficulties
the general chronology of events
secrecy of the transaction
deviation from the usual method or course of business

The Bankruptcy Code allows trustees to recover the fraudulently-transferred property.

So let me see...

Mar-a-Lago is worth either $739 million or $75 million depending on who you believe. Let's use the lower value. If Trump sold the property to Don Don for less than that, number 2 applies.

Since he transferred it to Don Don, number 3 applies.

He's still living there, or will once the temperature in Florida drops below the boiling point of pig iron, so number 4 applies.

He's under both civil and criminal indictment, so number 5 applies.

Chronology doesn't look good - he transferred the property between Criminal Indictment 3 and Criminal Indictment 4 - so number 8 applies.

AND it's almost certainly seizable as part of his RICO punishment.

Sorry Donald, but actions have consequences.

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sounds about like him Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #1
He knows that transferring it to Traitor Tot, its sale could buy a lot of blow. TheBlackAdder Aug 2023 #9
i was thinking since Jr is the only one not married.... Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #14
We had a pile of cocaine as high as a midget's ass! Probatim Aug 2023 #28
Dave still cracks me up a lot--but Chapelle Show was brilliant Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #30
the baby drug dealer laid me out eleny Aug 2023 #78
Baby... Baby! Get back in the house! Probatim Aug 2023 #108
Laughing just from the memory of it eleny Aug 2023 #116
He's still funny. It's just his ass is hanging out now. Iggo Aug 2023 #117
LOL! FakeNoose Aug 2023 #33
You now have Cokeville! rubbersole Aug 2023 #47
Coke-a-Lago. madinmaryland Aug 2023 #94
His explanation Wonder Why Aug 2023 #110
Perhaps DA Fani Willis can add jr to the RICO charges MagickMuffin Aug 2023 #2
Many move their homes to a trust especially at 77 and above mainly to hope to best the jimfields33 Aug 2023 #10
He was about to be indicted...screw him. Demsrule86 Aug 2023 #20
Isn't transferring to a trust different than transferring to a relative? llmart Aug 2023 #25
I think it's all under that five year rule. Most sell to family members for a dollar. jimfields33 Aug 2023 #58
The coke head? Man oh man he is desperate. I'd have gone with the other some Barron. MLAA Aug 2023 #3
lol.. .I know, right. Cha Aug 2023 #6
I mean what does that say about Eric? Losing out to a Coke head with a whacky girlfriend! MLAA Aug 2023 #36
Try Harder, Butthead Cha Aug 2023 #41
... MLAA Aug 2023 #99
Melania probably got documents PlutosHeart Aug 2023 #63
Very likely. MLAA Aug 2023 #132
Before this is over MOMFUDSKI Aug 2023 #4
I certainly hope so. William769 Aug 2023 #7
Does he anticipate forfeiture for some reason? Solly Mack Aug 2023 #5
"This suggests that Trump merely transferred the asset into a corporation owned by his son to shield William769 Aug 2023 #11
So, yes, he does. For the just in case. Solly Mack Aug 2023 #18
Wow he's scared. All that bravado is for show. scipan Aug 2023 #22
His unpaid lawyers can place liens maybe. Bluesaph Aug 2023 #83
Bingo! Omnipresent Aug 2023 #93
Hrs trying to hide his assets from ny...... getagrip_already Aug 2023 #8
He'll sell it for cocaine lame54 Aug 2023 #12
No doubt. William769 Aug 2023 #16
Nah! He needs it to pay lawn service to mow his mom. Or is it stepmom? Or step-on-mom? Wonder Why Aug 2023 #43
They are moving all the family assets out of Trump's name? Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #13
This makes me think he's getting ready to leave the country... Trueblue Texan Aug 2023 #87
I agree, if sentenced to prison, there is a good chance he will leave the country. Irish_Dem Aug 2023 #98
Kim Guilfoyle: tanyev Aug 2023 #15
Will she sign a prenup Traildogbob Aug 2023 #27
Her best is yet to come unweird Aug 2023 #39
She been playing the long game Traildogbob Aug 2023 #46
And why the hell would any man (even a prick) be with that woman? hatrack Aug 2023 #53
Who would buy that shit hole? LuvLoogie Aug 2023 #50
its definitely not a shit hole Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #60
I still want it bulldozed. PlutosHeart Aug 2023 #64
Like Epstein's home in Palm Beach. Omnipresent Aug 2023 #97
Sorry but it's to damn gaudy. William769 Aug 2023 #74
That would be Marjorie Merriwether Post. 3catwoman3 Aug 2023 #77
oops. thanks for the correction Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #81
I wouldn't believe any of them would ever honor any document moniss Aug 2023 #73
Now Junior can kick Dad off the property for good. NameAlreadyTaken Aug 2023 #17
LOL William769 Aug 2023 #19
How much do they expect him to owe?! herding cats Aug 2023 #21
Be hilarious if the kid changed the locks and hired his own security people Blues Heron Aug 2023 #23
Yes, my assumption is preemptive economic fraud, Hortensis Aug 2023 #24
... William769 Aug 2023 #26
Nailed it. slumcamper Aug 2023 #29
he'll trade it for blow prodigitalson Aug 2023 #31
i hope junior sells it for a pile of blow and the new owners kick drumpf out lol Takket Aug 2023 #32
Or he just snorts the whole pile Tony Montana style. Crowman2009 Aug 2023 #80
He didn't want Ms. Carroll to get it. Marcuse Aug 2023 #34
Trying to run from moniss Aug 2023 #35
These are my thoughts, too. sybylla Aug 2023 #92
Name enid602 Aug 2023 #37
Rofl Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #69
Maybe moniss Aug 2023 #72
Mar-a-caca Bluesaph Aug 2023 #84
Does this mean that he can't claim it as his home for a home detention sentence? wnylib Aug 2023 #38
Interesting question. Attilatheblond Aug 2023 #42
He would not be allowed to serve a sentence outside of the country. wnylib Aug 2023 #45
One of the biggest problems with social media Attilatheblond Aug 2023 #100
OK. Emojis can show the invisible tongue in cheek. wnylib Aug 2023 #102
oh boy! jcgoldie Aug 2023 #40
That's good news. It mean Trump actually understands he's in real trouble. Martin68 Aug 2023 #44
He must be concerned that they might try to seize his assets? kentuck Aug 2023 #48
This may qualify as a fraudulent conveyance jmowreader Aug 2023 #49
He has at least four civil cases that can result in nearly a billion dollars in judgements. Thunderbeast Aug 2023 #55
Thanks, very interesting. burrowowl Aug 2023 #85
It was another false report. former9thward Aug 2023 #119
I wonder if Jr will get a decent headstone for his mom.... LakeArenal Aug 2023 #51
This is what you do when you're accused of a little 'election interference' Jarqui Aug 2023 #52
Indeed? calimary Aug 2023 #54
It's like Melania doesn't even exist. nolabear Aug 2023 #56
I expect there was a prenup for that marriage! BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #57
No doubt. She doesn't get paid, she doesn't show. nolabear Aug 2023 #59
In other words... BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #62
Documents. PlutosHeart Aug 2023 #67
... BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #70
So lets say one of the cases involves him having to pay a huge amount of cash for some reason cstanleytech Aug 2023 #61
Few yrs ago 60 Minutes did a show about how FL is one of the best states to live in if a bankruptcy 2live is 2fly Aug 2023 #107
I am not sure the laws in the US but in Canada that transfer would not stand up to scrutiny. Bev54 Aug 2023 #65
Has he paid EJ Carroll yet? KewlKat Aug 2023 #66
Scum like this guy moniss Aug 2023 #75
Great question malaise Aug 2023 #112
He's gonna run. My guess is Saudi Arabia. Joinfortmill Aug 2023 #68
I can live with that. lindysalsagal Aug 2023 #71
He can't get enough of fondling those gorgeous glowing orbs! Buns_of_Fire Aug 2023 #121
Somehow this will work out great for FF45 but bad for Junior Blue Owl Aug 2023 #76
Mar-a-lamo is going to look like the movie Scarface in a few months. Crowman2009 Aug 2023 #79
More Stupid Advice Roy Rolling Aug 2023 #82
"Junior and Gargoyle" laughed out loud at that, I'm still chuckling, she is smthing all right 2live is 2fly Aug 2023 #105
Very expensive if he did Sgent Aug 2023 #86
Sounds like divorce prep. Bristlecone Aug 2023 #88
Interesting. Can't claim it as homestead under Florida law now. Tommy Carcetti Aug 2023 #89
His use of a Bailbond company is a tell randr Aug 2023 #90
...Including whatever may yet be hidden there. Ford_Prefect Aug 2023 #95
DU attorneys: is this fraudulent conveyance? obamanut2012 Aug 2023 #91
Hiding ASSets. nt SayItLoud Aug 2023 #96
FL has very strong laws regarding property seizure. WarGamer Aug 2023 #101
tRump paid $8 million in 1985. Was valued at $250 million a year ago. Zillow says sale $422 million Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #103
Zillow is now reporting that is false jmowreader Aug 2023 #120
Yes, thanks, I posted that at #115 previously. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #122
How do we know that any money actually changed hands? jcgoldie Aug 2023 #104
Sounds like a guy BlueIdaho Aug 2023 #106
Which? Island Deac Aug 2023 #109
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Aug 2023 #111
Why does he get this ridiculous motorcade? AllyCat Aug 2023 #113
Clinton, Obama and Bush would get the same motorcade. former9thward Aug 2023 #118
Sexual assault AllyCat Aug 2023 #123
No, that was a civil court, not criminal. former9thward Aug 2023 #125
He's a rapist. AllyCat Aug 2023 #126
Maybe in your mind and others but not the law. former9thward Aug 2023 #127
All those women are just liars I suppose? AllyCat Aug 2023 #128
No they wouldn't... brooklynite Aug 2023 #130
You are not the only one who has been to events with former presidents. former9thward Aug 2023 #131
So obvious treestar Aug 2023 #114
Zwillow has REMOVED the 'record'. It was apparently some Agent who posted it. Denied and removed. nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #115
Why isn't this receiving more coverage? malaise Aug 2023 #124
Because it didn't happen... brooklynite Aug 2023 #129
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