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In reply to the discussion: Young voters are fed up [View all]
 

AntivaxHunters

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89. I disagree & I'll explain why
Sat Aug 26, 2023, 09:53 AM
Aug 2023

While it's true that they blame both parties for the problems of today and if we're going to be telling the truth here that would be correct but there's one party in particular that's done a whole lot of shit and that isn't Democrats .

That said they won't vote Republican because young voters don't want anything to do with the GOP. They view the GOP as a racist, white supremacist, out of touch white Christian nationalist entity. The number one issue with young voters is climate change. And Republicans believe that that is a fucking hoax. And while it's true that they blame Democrats they also blame Republicans 10 times more.

The big differences besides climate change is this; the war on LGBTQIA people. Young voters all know somebody who's queer. Every single one of them. It's not the 1970s and 1980s anymore were one in 500 people may know someone who's queer. It's 2023 and it's acceptable now to be queer. Only in the eyes of conservatives is it not. And that's a defining issue. They see all these laws being passed against trans people and everything else They're not blind. And they realize that these kind of laws hurt their friends and family along with their loved ones.

This is a big opportunity for a party. As in massive. Young voters are more educated and more aware or " woke " then the generations before them as study after study is shown. They are fully engaged. And instead of going towards the right to cater to people that are disenfried Republicans I feel what we should be doing is going to left and going after all these young voters because they are the largest voting group now and they will be a future very very fast. The opportunity here we have is to completely eradicate and erase the Republican Party on the national stage entirely and we need to pick up that torch and absolutely run with it. Some things I feel have to change. And one of those things is definitely stop defending incumbents in primary races. Henry queller for instance is so out of touch. He's an anti-abortion NRA friendly Democrat. That guy can take a hike as far as I'm concerned and in the minds of most Democrats.

We need to be backing the future and the sooner that we do that the sooner the GOP goes adios. We have the ability to relegate them to a minority party status that is basically a regional entity in the original Confederate States. As it is right now Utah of all places, although Mormon, is beginning to Trent to the left. There's changes happening in Utah which is red as it gets although it is a different kind of red They're not wackos. But even young Mormons are beginning to see that things have to change and that's saying a lot when they see that given not only their views with religion and conservatism but their judgmental practices of others. Why? Because once again as I said they all have friends that are queer. Every one of them.

We need to seize upon this opportunity and that doesn't mean people saying oh it's her fault blah blah blah or I got mine fuck you. The people that are saying these kind of things have never ever experienced what young voters are. None of them were ever swimming and $100,000 student loan debt. None of them ever were harassed for being queer. None of them ever had right-wing wacko show up at their schools protesting because people had a mask on or about the classes that are being taught with regards to history and black Americans. No they've never experienced anything like that in their lives. They've never ever had to struggle with wages being so low. There's a lot of really out of touch statements being made and replies here and that really does say a lot You can definitely really see the generational gap. It's really kind of sad when you think about it. And I wish people would have a better sense of class consciousness.

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Young voters are fed up [View all] AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 OP
what do they think should happen Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #1
I'm no Gen Zer, but I know many. Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #7
first 2 are gonna take a ton of political engagement Recycle_Guru Aug 2023 #12
If Dems win DownriverDem Aug 2023 #28
well, the rethug plan has always been... Trueblue Texan Aug 2023 #58
Once we truly start taxing billionaires and making laws about how many times more BComplex Aug 2023 #26
The morbidly-rich and their greed driven, extraction, vulture capitalism is crushing working folks. Magoo48 Aug 2023 #45
I wonder if it includes their voting Democratic treestar Aug 2023 #130
Can't blame them for being fed up. I just shake my head when I see someone say the economy Autumn Aug 2023 #2
They're not going to burn it down. maxsolomon Aug 2023 #23
Do you think young people are going to continue to vote for the status quo? Because I don't Autumn Aug 2023 #35
I didn't want to vote for the "status quo" when I was young maxsolomon Aug 2023 #37
Things don't change much because politicians don't want them to change and the media Autumn Aug 2023 #68
+1 betsuni Aug 2023 #70
Last night on Daily Beans, Alison Gill's podcast, cilla4progress Aug 2023 #3
When people ask me about the younger generations Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #4
We think $20/hr is a living wage in California Sympthsical Aug 2023 #11
Newsflash inthewind21 Aug 2023 #17
Newsflash: It's not a contest Sympthsical Aug 2023 #21
It's not? inthewind21 Aug 2023 #60
No one said it was Sympthsical Aug 2023 #64
Pretty inthewind21 Aug 2023 #65
Well, I didn't experience septum separation Sympthsical Aug 2023 #67
It never fails. Mariana Aug 2023 #82
Pretty inthewind21 Aug 2023 #66
Thanks for this Bettie Aug 2023 #118
Funny how Democratic voters keep nominating "mainstream" candidates... brooklynite Aug 2023 #109
I wonder if she and the young voters she supposedly treestar Aug 2023 #132
No. I say no. betsuni Aug 2023 #133
23% turnout for 2022 treestar Aug 2023 #136
Great points Johnny2X2X Aug 2023 #22
Yeah, it's a different world out there. Sympthsical Aug 2023 #94
Same leighbythesea2 Aug 2023 #51
Same is true for us seniors on social security vlyons Aug 2023 #5
+1 CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #6
I hope that doesn't mean all in on "left" or "Green Party" candidates flamingdem Aug 2023 #8
That was me 30 years ago also when things were also not great for someone without $ already. Brainfodder Aug 2023 #9
Many of us have been or still are in this situation CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #14
You stole my answer! AwakeAtLast Aug 2023 #71
and 20 years ago I could find a 2 bedroom apartment for $600 a month The Wandering Harper Aug 2023 #78
#1 is raise taxes on the rich and on corporations vlyons Aug 2023 #10
K&R! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2023 #16
#2 is onethatcares Aug 2023 #20
#3 is over turn the Citizens United v. FEC ruling sarge43 Aug 2023 #41
I would make that #2 vlyons Aug 2023 #54
I agree! True Blue American Aug 2023 #121
But you'd need programs in place to fund leftstreet Aug 2023 #63
100%! Go back to Eisenhower tax rates and give the people Greybnk48 Aug 2023 #124
Oh there is lots of wealth, there's just no 'trickle down' from the upward flood... Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2023 #13
Great poster. raccoon Aug 2023 #81
We and the young voters need to force a trickle down like Eisenhower did. Greybnk48 Aug 2023 #125
She's prime pickings for the Repukes to "bLaMe TeH lIbRuLzZ!" Wednesdays Aug 2023 #15
Nope AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #40
Abortion rights is probably the biggest one Sky Jewels Aug 2023 #53
This is what my GenZ kids and Bettie Aug 2023 #119
I was fed up at that age, too. maxsolomon Aug 2023 #18
Similar to Ashley Babbitt's videos Kaleva Aug 2023 #19
She seems to blaming this country for her financial problems... like its Biden's fault. honest.abe Aug 2023 #24
It is NOT Biden's fault CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #25
Yeah, I was thinking about commenting on the braces thing. honest.abe Aug 2023 #29
She "forgot" to pay for her daughter's braces? Wingus Dingus Aug 2023 #27
plenty of $ for piercings and jewelry and make-up CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #32
She addressed you AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #47
Not to mention the smart phone misanthrope Aug 2023 #50
What an out of touch statement AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #42
Yep, my thoughts exactly. I raised 3 kids, then 3 grandkids txwhitedove Aug 2023 #44
that was an odd way to put it treestar Aug 2023 #139
when you look at how much top corporate execs make i dont blame the youth moonshinegnomie Aug 2023 #30
Who does she attribute these problems to though? Marius25 Aug 2023 #31
She presents no plans CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #33
Most kids I know today have roommates because rents are too expensive womanofthehills Aug 2023 #123
So get out and vote. LisaM Aug 2023 #34
+1 CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #36
Wrong AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #43
A great inthewind21 Aug 2023 #61
whatever CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #69
Nobody's here to impress you AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #84
she has health care treestar Aug 2023 #134
exactly! treestar Aug 2023 #103
GOP's plan is to stop them from voting IronLionZion Aug 2023 #38
Don't mistake bigger actions or ones that weren't done or possible in the past for Hortensis Aug 2023 #39
Whole lot of judging going on in this thread. aocommunalpunch Aug 2023 #46
Nope. Her repeated blame of this "f'ng country" was txwhitedove Aug 2023 #59
She's correct AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #85
now that's not fair treestar Aug 2023 #138
Green new deal can make the changes needed LiberaBlueDem Aug 2023 #48
Some people homegirl Aug 2023 #49
very limited vocabulary CountAllVotes Aug 2023 #73
JFC this is gross AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #86
But, you homegirl Aug 2023 #101
that's a lot for an unnecessary luxury treestar Aug 2023 #104
If someone is complaining SickOfTheOnePct Aug 2023 #142
Are you sure? BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #144
+1000000 BannonsLiver Aug 2023 #143
They have to brains to know who fucked things up and how they did it Warpy Aug 2023 #52
And that would be a good thing Bettie Aug 2023 #122
If you want to live like a Republican, vote for the Democrats OMGWTF Aug 2023 #55
Stay vigilant. This "lesson" was only a few months ago. aocommunalpunch Aug 2023 #56
We need to be sure they understand the why behind it. JudyM Aug 2023 #57
I'll believe it when I see it SpankMe Aug 2023 #62
What does this have to do with "young voters"? betsuni Aug 2023 #72
K & R! liberalla Aug 2023 #74
I'll let "many of us" speak for many of us... brooklynite Aug 2023 #75
they have a right to be frustrated Skittles Aug 2023 #76
saying things like The Wandering Harper Aug 2023 #77
THANK YOU! AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #87
very welcome The Wandering Harper Aug 2023 #98
lol then who will they vote for treestar Aug 2023 #105
What state is she in ? JI7 Aug 2023 #79
Cape Coral FL 33909 jxla Aug 2023 #112
Thank you. betsuni Aug 2023 #114
I don't see that kind of frustration being easily converted into sustained votes for Democrats Silent3 Aug 2023 #80
I disagree & I'll explain why AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #89
"None of them ever were harassed for being queer"? Huh? Silent3 Aug 2023 #97
would you rather have tepid support on the basis of a "lesser of evils" perception, The Wandering Harper Aug 2023 #99
Of course I'd RATHER have enthusiasm Silent3 Aug 2023 #111
thank you for articulating so well The Wandering Harper Aug 2023 #100
"see our party change a LOT so it swings very left" -- what's not Left about Democrats now? betsuni Aug 2023 #83
Myth that the Democratic Party has shifted Right, bullshit about "neoliberal." betsuni Aug 2023 #115
It's always easier to blame Democrats nini Aug 2023 #126
well - as she said in her last sentence, she is "just venting" NewHendoLib Aug 2023 #88
Thank you ❤️ AntivaxHunters Aug 2023 #90
. NewHendoLib Aug 2023 #91
Yes but the problem is she is now a TikTok star and her words have impact. honest.abe Aug 2023 #108
Well, this topic ended up being a look Sympthsical Aug 2023 #92
My question is. Why doesn't she look more poor?! What's wrong with her Carlitos Brigante Aug 2023 #93
She looks showered Sympthsical Aug 2023 #95
People have to reinforce their stereotypes. aocommunalpunch Aug 2023 #107
Like Democrats are called corrupt "coastal elites" even though they were from working class betsuni Aug 2023 #116
Which has jack shit to do with what I posted. nt Carlitos Brigante Aug 2023 #117
LOL. betsuni Aug 2023 #120
given what she was saying treestar Aug 2023 #129
That's some silly ass shit. What was she wearing, specifically, that makes her Carlitos Brigante Aug 2023 #131
you are - that car looks rather new treestar Aug 2023 #135
How new is that car? Please tell us car expert. It looks clean. Other than that you Carlitos Brigante Aug 2023 #137
Completely unrelated Sympthsical Aug 2023 #141
I bet she owns a refrigerator, too! demmiblue Aug 2023 #147
TikTok, good Lord. Nixie Aug 2023 #96
thread no. 4,594,599,443 treestar Aug 2023 #102
Why are they always blaming others? Mariana Aug 2023 #113
so why don't they get out there and get involved? treestar Aug 2023 #127
It's very passive-aggressive. betsuni Aug 2023 #128
The neo liberal/greed is good ,plan sucks RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2023 #106
So, would anyone care to share a list of the Democrats who don't share your apparent standards? brooklynite Aug 2023 #110
$300/mo child support for two kids Mosby Aug 2023 #140
Didn't the Florida Governor put limits on child support payments ? JI7 Aug 2023 #149
I found a calculator Mosby Aug 2023 #151
I hope "fed up" means "fired up". Fed up? Vote! JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2023 #145
This thread is embarrassing. demmiblue Aug 2023 #146
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Aug 2023 #150
The issue here is her Republican Criminal Ex Husband JI7 Aug 2023 #148
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