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eridani

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52. Utter right wing tripe

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:07 AM

Nov 2012

More money is SUPPOSED to be going outright now, you idiots! The trust fund has a surplus that was deliberately created in the 80s to prepay boomer retirement. FICA tax rates were DOUBLED. (We'll have to build another surplus for Gen Y for the same reason.)

By your idiotic logic, we are all starving to death because the percent of farmers in the workforce is so much lower now than it was in 1955. Increases in productivity mean that it takes vastly less labor to support the entire population than it used to. Naturally, working people have not gotten the benefits of those productivity increases, but why not fix that instead of killing old people?

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I am almost 50 years old. i have been paying into Social Security since days after turning 14 [View all] RomneyLies Nov 2012 OP

I'm in exactly the same situation: boguspotus Nov 2012 #1

Same here I am 64 and retired, if I didn't have an doc03 Nov 2012 #2

I'm 58 and been paying since I was 14... KelleyD Nov 2012 #3

Not only that. I didn't believe that a party who'd cut for younger would leave current beneficiaries Honeycombe8 Nov 2012 #18

cutting benefits for younger folks while leaving them for older folks is the same 'two-tier' crap HiPointDem Nov 2012 #27

Bingo eridani Nov 2012 #47

Yup, I just crossed the 50 yr marker. Started working at 11 yrs old as a golf caddy. riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #4

53 since 14 years old and I agree start contacting your state rep! Rocky888 Nov 2012 #5

I am afraid you won't have anyone to vote for then, I'll doc03 Nov 2012 #6

We have to keep Social Security as the "third rail" of politics nichomachus Nov 2012 #7

...or we'll run them out of town on a third rail. nt Qutzupalotl Nov 2012 #12

Yup. Island Blue Nov 2012 #8

47 years old, started working when I was 16 too pitbullgirl1965 Nov 2012 #10

I started at 12 but not sure if the babysitting type jobs paid it in - TBF Nov 2012 #23

1965 Baby! tk2kewl Nov 2012 #54

Do you remember in 1980 when they raised the SS retirement age ? PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #9

The poster in the OP would have been 18 yrs old. Most teens aren't paying attention to retirement riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #11

I'm 57 and have been working from a similar age maui902 Nov 2012 #13

WHAT? A deal *now*, while "we" (who is this "we"?) have leverage? If you mean soon to be HiPointDem Nov 2012 #35

What do you propose, then, maui902 Nov 2012 #44

What does a discussion of "deficit" reduction have to do with Social Security? retread Nov 2012 #46

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the answer to your question is "nothing". maui902 Nov 2012 #50

How do we get policy to reflect the will of the people? PETRUS Nov 2012 #56

One more try maui902 Nov 2012 #67

I got you. PETRUS Nov 2012 #71

Honestly, I respect your position maui902 Nov 2012 #72

i propose not making deals with terrorists and telling the world they're terrorists. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #70

Nonsense. There are no financial problems with SocSec that can't be fixed by raising the cap eridani Nov 2012 #49

Stop the wars. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #57

In the same boat. Any cutbacks or pushing back retirment age is stealing from me. JHB Nov 2012 #14

K&R forestpath Nov 2012 #15

Social Security isn't part of the deficit...its a whole different problem davidn3600 Nov 2012 #16

The problem is, the GOP and big business wants everyone to rustydog Nov 2012 #20

And when you have people working into their seventies because they can't afford to retire Fumesucker Nov 2012 #22

I worked until I was 71. I am now 73. RebelOne Nov 2012 #69

No, that's not the problem. It doesn't matter how many workers support how many retirees, it HiPointDem Nov 2012 #36

Utter right wing tripe eridani Nov 2012 #52

been paying in almost 40 years Skittles Nov 2012 #17

If there are going to be cuts... Sophiegirl Nov 2012 #19

with interest, of course. tavernier Nov 2012 #51

Just out of curiosity, billh58 Nov 2012 #21

Reagan cut SS when he signed the Bill to tax 50% of SS benefits. Clinton cut SS more when he signed AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #39

The taxation doesn't apply to all recipients: WinkyDink Nov 2012 #58

No, it's means-testing, which is unhelpful. nt PETRUS Nov 2012 #60

You're right, it doesn't. But that doesn't negate the fact that Reagan and Clinton reduced SS AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #64

Third rail it! EOM ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #24

Younger People Should Be Concerned Too Liberalynn Nov 2012 #25

Virtually all of my generation is JoeyT Nov 2012 #42

Thank you for fighting for the previous generation Liberalynn Nov 2012 #66

Social Security being in jeopardy is a big lie. lalalu Nov 2012 #26

Increase social security benefits The Second Stone Nov 2012 #28

*1 Liberalynn Nov 2012 #30

Hear, hear. nt woo me with science Nov 2012 #34

I can agree with that. RebelOne Nov 2012 #73

enough donnasgirl Nov 2012 #29

What about those that are 60 to 64 Dems50State Nov 2012 #31

It probably won't work like that. JoeyT Nov 2012 #43

You're right..... ReRe Nov 2012 #32

Benefits should be raised, first of all because those who paid into SS and are currently elegible sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #33

SS HAS $2.6 TRILLION SURPLUS ErikJ Nov 2012 #37

I'm 65 this month, just got my Medicare card mountain grammy Nov 2012 #38

Exactement! Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #40

Just one more thing ... Mme. Defarge Nov 2012 #41

It's been so long I almost forgot my grandparents who didn't have Medicare mountain grammy Nov 2012 #55

I'll be 62 very soon and I feel exactly the same way. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #45

The Big Lie is that SS adds to the deficit. alarimer Nov 2012 #48

46 and I also have been working since 14 years old. Bonobo Nov 2012 #53

Me too. I remember my Mom explaining what that deduction from my progressoid Nov 2012 #59

Hear hear... quispquake Nov 2012 #61

Me too. Same age. Horse with no Name Nov 2012 #62

i started paying in at 12. agreed. nt seabeyond Nov 2012 #63

I turned 59 two weeks ago. I've paid into Social Security since I was 17. magical thyme Nov 2012 #65

I'm with ya ....ANY politician in favor of cuts in Social Security and Medicare lovuian Nov 2012 #68

Me, too, except I am almost 51. Is this happening? adigal Nov 2012 #74