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treestar

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27. Right, wasn't it a way to get around a wage ceiling?
Thu Nov 15, 2012, 11:36 AM
Nov 2012

And then it became almost like canon law. We need to get away from it. If people had to cover themselves with their earnings - say they were paid the amount the insurance cost by being the conduit for it - they would be much more likely to support single payer.

It's like the way the IRS takes taxes out during the year. Wise, but people don't "feel" the taxes this way. They rant on about being tax payers. But if they had to write the check themselves each year rather than having their employer pay it and then get back the excess, well they'd be a lot less likely to support the wars, etc. They'd know now much they were paying and feel it.

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I think he's right gollygee Nov 2012 #1
I'm hoping the business community will now want to support single payer... OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #3
That, I hope, will turn out to be the genius of ACA. PeaceNikki Nov 2012 #11
'xactly. ;) n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #13
It developed during WWII as a way to attract workers when wages were fixed. SharonAnn Nov 2012 #31
This is where he probably would disagree - since he would say that taking healthcare out of the Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #10
There's a big difference between health care and health insurance. yardwork Nov 2012 #28
Because we have an insane for-profit insurance industry? caraher Nov 2012 #2
health care costs brokechris Nov 2012 #14
Very few doctors make $300,000 a year. Most make a lot less than that. yardwork Nov 2012 #29
Not sure where you live, brokechris Nov 2012 #35
Doctor salaries are not the main driver of increased health care costs caraher Nov 2012 #32
I wasn't trying to say that they are a main driver. brokechris Nov 2012 #36
It's a trade-off postulater Nov 2012 #4
I agree - but then you would have to convince them that the cost of increased taxes would not Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #16
I could be totally wrong about this Lindsay Nov 2012 #5
It's an historic consequence of healthcare being an inticement to employment HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #6
exactly...."Doing the right thing." That is also was is also what is missing completely from Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #20
Right, wasn't it a way to get around a wage ceiling? treestar Nov 2012 #27
Yes I believe it was, then it became a "business as usual" alternative to monetary compensation HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #34
before businesses got involved MrYikes Nov 2012 #7
I was taught in college brokechris Nov 2012 #8
They used to do it as a benefit to attract and retain employees. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #9
back in the old days.... madrchsod Nov 2012 #12
yes. And also, a long time ago, you simply paid your "doctor visit" bills - maybe even had a Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #21
He is correct and they should not have to. Plus, why attach healthcare cost to American products?? Coyotl Nov 2012 #15
Not actually true quaker bill Nov 2012 #17
Therein lies the rub - we all know WHAT needs to happen to cure this problem. HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #18
Why not compromise. Why not de-couple routine healthcare from hospitalization? That's Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #23
I like this idea! (nt) brokechris Nov 2012 #38
Because the U.S. MUST be capitalist LWolf Nov 2012 #19
It was once part of a benefits package to get and keep good workers. It also sometimes included juajen Nov 2012 #22
No, the asnwer should have been 100% nationalized HC Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #24
The answer is simply-- Who else? Every national system I'm aware of... TreasonousBastard Nov 2012 #25
A Culture of Corporate Dependency kurt_cagle Nov 2012 #26
This will soon, very soon, become the standard view for most businesses riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #30
new health care brokechris Nov 2012 #37
Your friend needs to study the history of post WWII American economics to find the answer. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #33
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