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haele

(15,605 posts)
29. First thing, not all homeless are the same.
Wed Sep 13, 2023, 09:40 PM
Sep 2023

While the cost of housing is spinning out of reach for many, others really just are on the streets because they can no longer care of themselves, because they're on their own with nowhere to go, or because they have serious issues that need to be resolved before they can take care of themselves.

Second, there needs to be adequate shelter available for the variety of homeless instead of just rousting them from one park, highway easement, or alleyway to the next.
There needs to be more robust shelters for families (biological or otherwise), couples and pet parents.
Shelters for transients or people with mental health issues and substance abuse needs to be different than shelters for working poor or emancipated teens/aged out foster kids who are trying to work or go to school to support themselves.
You can't shelter elderly or disabled in bunk beds, if that's all that's available.
There also needs to be some way the homeless can store personal papers, medicines, valuables, tools needed to work with, etc., without worrying about these things being stolen, left behind, or trashed by police cleaning out a camp.

There is no "one size fits all". Safe camping and parking areas with on site facilities and support infrastructure are good. Renovated Hotels and converted office complexes for single workers and students are good. Tiny home family communities with onsite maintenance and visiting support groups are good. Recovery shelters for addicts and transients are good.
Truly low income and affordable housing in community settings based on ownership instead of just renting is also good.

But these solutions cost money and time, as well as a will to deal with all the issues. And unfortunately, people who aren't worried about becoming homeless any time soon (or are avoiding the possibility that it could happen to them), think that the poor aren't worth the effort. Because "they worked hard and made it, why can't the homeless".

So, the basic "fix it" the State of California is looking at is to not roust unless appropriate shelter is available. And a big tent or warehouse with bunk beds, benches, porta-potties and a bored rent-a-cop with a food truck that drops by three times a day is not f'ing appropriate shelter, not enough to force someone out of a tent or car where they can have some privacy and can keep their personal items somewhat safe.

Money or Human Dignity. IMO, It all depends on what a community is willing to give up.

Haele

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I guess I'm a bleeding heart liberal [View all] senseandsensibility Sep 2023 OP
Agree with you 100% Coventina Sep 2023 #1
You're right senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #2
By my favorite author Terry Pratchett Bear Creek Sep 2023 #8
Empathy is a key marker of a progressive PJMcK Sep 2023 #3
With a bleeding heart comes emotional bruising. Boomerproud Sep 2023 #4
Me too. Elessar Zappa Sep 2023 #5
i strictly blame the land mafia who make these huge big box houses AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #6
I'm fortunate that I've never experienced homelessness or the fear of it. Lonestarblue Sep 2023 #7
Thanks for this senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #13
Wonderful organization - Mobile Loaves and Fishes TexasBushwhacker Sep 2023 #34
I used to feel this way but the problem is totally out of control in many cities. honest.abe Sep 2023 #9
What are these harsh solutions? Elessar Zappa Sep 2023 #10
++ appalachiablue Sep 2023 #11
Where I live we have few homeless.. not sure why. honest.abe Sep 2023 #16
We need to curtail short term rentals. LisaM Sep 2023 #12
Thank you for being a "bleeding heart liberal". We should be proud of that label. Sometimes it LoisB Sep 2023 #14
You are right sorrybushisfromtexas Sep 2023 #15
Better a bleeding heart Riverman100 Sep 2023 #17
I am very annoyed with my neighbors Sympthsical Sep 2023 #18
Same thing is happening in a town near me. yardwork Sep 2023 #25
Well they shouldn't live in California Calculating Sep 2023 #19
it is NOT just California!! markie Sep 2023 #21
We just need to do what we can. marble falls Sep 2023 #20
I have held down a job while living in a car. Because California. paulkienitz Sep 2023 #22
...there but for the grace of God. You bet. It's time to have some real compassion PatrickforB Sep 2023 #23
Totally on point. byronius Sep 2023 #24
You are right and a compassionate person. Our humanity may prevail. Maybe. Evolve Dammit Sep 2023 #26
Empathy NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #27
Almost every Snackshack Sep 2023 #28
First thing, not all homeless are the same. haele Sep 2023 #29
Pay me $2800 a month and I'll personally build you a house Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #30
To get people to move there. Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2023 #31
Red states like mine are high on misery and low on every metric that counts Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #32
The worst I've encountered is Missouri. Lady Freedom Returns Sep 2023 #33
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