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Voltaire2

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53. Why is the cost put on the workers?

Reply to mike_c (Reply #50)

Thu Sep 14, 2023, 02:52 PM

Sep 2023

How about the owners, the people getting rich off the labor of others, pay for this?

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Should child free people have to accommodate people with kids in the workplace? [View all] ripcord Sep 2023 OP

No. underpants Sep 2023 #1

Well you do understand that what you are suggesting is illegal. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #130

I don't think so--and I had young kids at one time. (They're adults now.) I think employers should d tblue37 Sep 2023 #2

Very good point. Asking for "accommodation" from co-workers is putting employer's enough Sep 2023 #8

Exactly TexasBushwhacker Sep 2023 #10

People so easily forget that they benefit from other people having kids Fullduplexxx Sep 2023 #14

People so easily forget that they benefit... ret5hd Sep 2023 #24

Well, I've always been single and childless TexasBushwhacker Sep 2023 #33

"People so easily forget that they benefit from other people having kids" obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #39

if that's the case, don't at least the younger ones treestar Sep 2023 #63

huh? msfiddlestix Sep 2023 #107

I think if an employee is entitled to the time off kcr Sep 2023 #3

Loaded Subject NowISeetheLight Sep 2023 #4

Hell no. we can do it Sep 2023 #5

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2023 #80

I'm of two minds on the subject. Aristus Sep 2023 #6

I think all people should be flexible and help one another Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #7

Exactly.... be kind to each other. NT Happy Hoosier Sep 2023 #12

Well said kcr Sep 2023 #15

we parents gotta survive somehow Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #34

Exactly. Sadly, they don't. hlthe2b Sep 2023 #17

Really we live in an "employer first" society. ret5hd Sep 2023 #28

I agree with you about that Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #36

+1. N/T obnoxiousdrunk Sep 2023 #38

It takes a Village Johonny Sep 2023 #49

I do too. I am sorry to see such terrible attitudes here of all places, honestly. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #131

Between this thread and the other one Bettie Sep 2023 #9

No. I think management has a responsiblity to set expectations to all: Be willing to help other hlthe2b Sep 2023 #19

boy. are you reading the same thread? stopdiggin Sep 2023 #21

It is funny how vocally we support sarisataka Sep 2023 #22

Exactly inthewind21 Sep 2023 #30

no one has said that obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #40

They also never call out Mondays with hangovers, or Fridays so they can get a Maru Kitteh Sep 2023 #52

there's no suggestion they should be helped treestar Sep 2023 #64

Good point... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #132

Yes. And no. Happy Hoosier Sep 2023 #11

I agree LeftInTX Sep 2023 #124

Wrong person to ask, as I always tried to accomodate. I won't say I never resented it, but always hlthe2b Sep 2023 #13

I've Learned RobinA Sep 2023 #29

Sick leave and FMLA protect two different interests. Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #45

Our Contract States RobinA Sep 2023 #56

As I said, it protects two different interests. Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #65

I hope your daughter is okay. phylny Sep 2023 #102

Okay is relative. Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #108

To Me RobinA Sep 2023 #112

Were you in a union at the time? CTyankee Sep 2023 #113

I am an attorney, Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #119

No RobinA Sep 2023 #16

I dig your 'wildly inappropriate' stopdiggin Sep 2023 #18

Read my post in this thread -- this actually happened to em obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #41

Really, I have heard tales like that before that were not neccesarily true. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #133

No. Are people with children willing to make job-related sacrifices to accommodate my lifestyle? Polly Hennessey Sep 2023 #20

If OT is frequent and expected, then your company is understaffed. That's not the fault of parents FSogol Sep 2023 #23

I absolutely agree. ShazzieB Sep 2023 #90

So inthewind21 Sep 2023 #25

The policy is that everyone gets the same amount of PTO ripcord Sep 2023 #121

jfc why would anyone try to solve an employer's problems? leftstreet Sep 2023 #26

Why limit it to child free people... Hope22 Sep 2023 #27

Why can't employers be civilized and plan... ret5hd Sep 2023 #32

That's really what it comes down to TexasBushwhacker Sep 2023 #35

This! Hope22 Sep 2023 #48

It's a ridiculous argument to begin with. Arthur_Frain Sep 2023 #31

lolz no, never, never, never obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #37

In my first career, this was constant. There was seldom a time when I was not doing Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #42

In a worker owned cooperative enterprise? Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #43

Dont talk to my wife about this, its touchy subject for her. thatdemguy Sep 2023 #44

We Have This Institutionalized RobinA Sep 2023 #59

It DOES benefit the company. ret5hd Sep 2023 #92

That is a sad story...I guess they showed him...wow just wow. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #134

Employment should be blind to whether you have children or not. meadowlander Sep 2023 #46

No--not unless the childfree workers pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #47

are we not members of the same community? mike_c Sep 2023 #50

Why is the cost put on the workers? Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #53

absolutely mike_c Sep 2023 #58

The Problem Is RobinA Sep 2023 #60

I'm working at home due to disabilities, but also responsible for grandkids... haele Sep 2023 #51

I am think you mean childless Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #54

Why should childfree retirees benefit from the Social Security payments made by the children pnwmom Sep 2023 #55

because they paid into it like everyone else. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #71

They didn't all pay in it like everyone else. pnwmom Sep 2023 #72

how is that relevant? Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #75

No, an married couple don't get the same benefits simply based on their earnings. pnwmom Sep 2023 #77

Any couple gets the same benefits based on their joint earnings Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #84

No, that's not true. If they make $100K because each of them makes $50K, pnwmom Sep 2023 #86

Same joint earnings meant the same joint earnings. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #95

And, per the argument of this post Bettie Sep 2023 #94

The assumption that only childless couples Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #100

I was addressing the fact that only having one earner Bettie Sep 2023 #101

Sure. And I agree. Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #105

Sometimes they can, sometimes they can't. Igel Sep 2023 #128

I spent my career "covering" for fellow workers with kids. Midnight Writer Sep 2023 #57

You Go! RobinA Sep 2023 #62

I don't think personal lives should have anything to do with anything treestar Sep 2023 #61

I think we need to go back to the good old days when women didn't know from one month to the next Hekate Sep 2023 #66

Yep. Bettie Sep 2023 #68

If we lived in a "civilized" country senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #67

Well spotted Hekate Sep 2023 #70

Ft. Bragg 86-89, many times married guys left early, while us single guys stayed and worked. sarcasmo Sep 2023 #69

I believe ForgedCrank Sep 2023 #73

The child-free employees are rightfully throwing it in the employer's court Sympthsical Sep 2023 #74

"Should child free workers be expected to cover for those with families?" Jedi Guy Sep 2023 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2023 #78

People with children have more emergency time off. milestogo Sep 2023 #79

This demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem. Act_of_Reparation Sep 2023 #89

This demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of my post. milestogo Sep 2023 #91

Should workplaces not hire people that have kids? edisdead Sep 2023 #81

Post removed Post removed Sep 2023 #82

Yes supporting families helps us all...that being said the bosses are at fault for not Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #83

I remember when some departments had Bettie Sep 2023 #104

I really think those that complain about let's face it women who need accommodations for family... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #129

Yep...It's a management issue LeftInTX Sep 2023 #125

No Rob H. Sep 2023 #85

In one of my old jobs as an HR manager LuckyCharms Sep 2023 #87

I will say that this topic brings to the surface the republican/conservative tendencies... demmiblue Sep 2023 #88

You mean the Republican tendency to... ret5hd Sep 2023 #115

Something I wouldn't have thought we would find here...years ago we used to Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #135

It can go too far jmowreader Sep 2023 #93

The kids never bothered me. I liked to see them. What leftyladyfrommo Sep 2023 #96

Child-free longtime worker here musette_sf Sep 2023 #97

The biggest lie is how the capitalists got the workers to fight each other over things like time off Oneironaut Sep 2023 #98

Only if it is voluntary for the single person. roamer65 Sep 2023 #99

Should HAB911 Sep 2023 #103

By "workplace" I infer you mean other than an educational or childcare work environment msfiddlestix Sep 2023 #106

It's not just an issue of children MissMillie Sep 2023 #109

Just some general thoughts on my part: Crunchy Frog Sep 2023 #110

As a single 40 year old man who is childless I have to say I Jspur Sep 2023 #111

As I said, it was just my thoughts, Crunchy Frog Sep 2023 #117

There are other examples too Polybius Sep 2023 #114

My experience with this was having to constantly cover for colleagues' maternity leaves, Scrivener7 Sep 2023 #123

Thankfully, this has never come up in the workplaces I've been in sakabatou Sep 2023 #116

Maybe the owner needs to hire another part time person who can be a fill in person - on call womanofthehills Sep 2023 #118

We are good for emergencies ripcord Sep 2023 #122

Sounds like a management issue to me. LeftInTX Sep 2023 #126

Had to do that in the Navy Kaleva Sep 2023 #120

This?, really? DiverDave Sep 2023 #127