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Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
55. Well, if you insist on going in circles:
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 12:06 PM
Sep 2023

It's a friggin opinion piece. Opinions are exceedingly common. Everybody has one, as the saying goes.

So do I. But I will not opine on the matters of fact. I will just point out the glaring inaccuracies Mr Hartmann inserted into his opinions.

The description of the plea deal Mr Hartman is opining on, "involving checking an “I’m not a drug addict” box on a gun purchase application and failing to pay his taxes" is not only a complete misrepresentation of the deal, but also misquotes the actual content in the application in question. There is no such thing as "“I’m not a drug addict” box" in the application, which Mr Hartmann puts in quotation marks as if it accurately represents what Biden had been charged with (https://courts.delaware.gov/Forms/Download.aspx?id=33068). That was not the charge.

Then, Mr Hartmann, as so many other DOJ detractors do time and again, despite clear evidence to the contrary, assumes that the Fifth Circuit ruling that struck down the law barring users of illegal drugs from possessing firearms, and would make you believe that this ruling has anything to do with Biden's charges. Yet, in the ruling, Judge Smith clearly states, referring to the defendant in the case: "We conclude only byemphasizing the narrowness of that holding. We do not invalidate the statute in all its applications, but, importantly, only as applied to Daniels" (https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/22/22-60596-CR0.pdf , Page 29)

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I'm pretty sure they will find tons of false information on gun applications.................... Lovie777 Sep 2023 #1
Will they be indicted for 3 felonies? gab13by13 Sep 2023 #2
That would depend on the circumstances of each inquiry, now wouldn't it? Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #27
So Hunter's case was more serious than Patrick Daniel's? gab13by13 Sep 2023 #35
That is up to the jury to decide, not me or you. And not Garland or Weiss. Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #48
A vulnerability of theirs that we should use to the hilt. wnylib Sep 2023 #5
+1 2naSalit Sep 2023 #20
A MOST interesting suggestion! calimary Sep 2023 #49
The idea was inspired by what I learned about the Salem witch trials. wnylib Sep 2023 #77
Hah! "Spectral evidence". calimary Sep 2023 #86
Have you ever seen the play or movie, The Crucible? wnylib Sep 2023 #88
I would love to see this. qwlauren35 Sep 2023 #58
Is this another bash DoJ/AG Garland thread? MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #3
It doesn't seem that way to me radical noodle Sep 2023 #9
Fair enough, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #10
It's a great comeback when talking to MAGAts radical noodle Sep 2023 #12
EXCELLENT!!! calimary Sep 2023 #51
It works almost as well radical noodle Sep 2023 #83
Perfect! MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #65
And she seems to own more than one firearm. sl8 Sep 2023 #14
To me, it seems like stretching an analogy to ridiculous extent in order to create yet another Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #29
Do you think that Hunter Biden was treated fairly by DOJ? gab13by13 Sep 2023 #11
I have no idea if he was treated fairly by the Garland's DoJ, MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #13
So what are you following? Posters who think Garland was wrong to appoint a partisan hack like Weiss Autumn Sep 2023 #15
We can wait until the cows come home gab13by13 Sep 2023 #17
People who think Garland was wrong to appoint Weiss tend to be Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #32
100+. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #36
"every little thing he did as an AG" Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #37
That is implied in my post. Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #50
careful, Sky Jewels Skittles Sep 2023 #79
You're right. Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #81
he is definitely "central" Skittles Sep 2023 #82
Yes, the palatable pick that would have appeased the right, Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #84
Is this post a defense of Garland? gab13by13 Sep 2023 #39
All of a sudden? Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #52
Quit reading what I didn't say. I eagerly await you proving me wrong Autumn Sep 2023 #40
What is there in your post to be proven you are wrong? Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #54
I don't need to be proven right, you seem to have a need to prove people wrong. Autumn Sep 2023 #56
Then, should I take it that you need to be proven wrong? Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #60
Now you are stretching the discussion. Autumn Sep 2023 #61
There is no need to stretch the discussion. It only shows what I pointed out the first time around. Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #63
You said I and others would be proved wrong. We won't be. Autumn Sep 2023 #64
I didn't say you WOULD be proven wrong. I said you WERE proven wrong. Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #69
I must have slept though it and missed being proven wrong. Autumn Sep 2023 #74
I directed you to your own past posts and responses to them. Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #76
+1. pretty much sums it up stopdiggin Sep 2023 #71
You called me a Garland basher. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #16
Why not? They got away with it when Hillary was about to win. housecat Sep 2023 #25
so why isn't the NRA defending Hunter? azureblue Sep 2023 #33
"I have no idea", On its face that's horrible in and of itself uponit7771 Sep 2023 #22
Hunter should have made a plea deal that stuck RandomNumbers Sep 2023 #41
Once again, it is the jury that convicted Daniels Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #47
and we just had to sneak in Merrick Garland there somewhere stopdiggin Sep 2023 #70
Deservedly so, a politically driven SC for a gun charge is disgusting on its face ... period end of uponit7771 Sep 2023 #21
If Hunter had committed a crime with the gun he lied to get, prosecute. Freethinker65 Sep 2023 #4
+1000 wnylib Sep 2023 #6
100+. MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #7
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2023 #24
there was also chatter azureblue Sep 2023 #34
+1000. Own it and get it over with. nt. RandomNumbers Sep 2023 #42
I'm betting malaise Sep 2023 #8
Joe should pardon not out of politics but because it is the compassionate thing to do usonian Sep 2023 #18
The Richard Painter tweet referenced in the article: sl8 Sep 2023 #19
Maybe she was Rebl2 Sep 2023 #23
Maybe Garland shouldn't appoint a special counsel in this case. Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #26
Weed is legal as is alcohol, so who cares if she was under the influence? intheflow Sep 2023 #28
100+. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #30
It's still illegal federally. sl8 Sep 2023 #31
She was in Denver where it's legal. intheflow Sep 2023 #38
It's illegal in the United States, including Denver. sl8 Sep 2023 #44
.... MarineCombatEngineer Sep 2023 #45
That's not how jurisdictions work. W_HAMILTON Sep 2023 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author stopdiggin Sep 2023 #72
I think federal law still applies in Denver -(nt)- stopdiggin Sep 2023 #73
It is not. ColinC Sep 2023 #43
Good lord, you want to go after her for smoking weed, intheflow Sep 2023 #46
You might be missing the point which is that the doj opened up a can of worms ecstatic Sep 2023 #59
Not "going after" her would be preferential treatment ColinC Sep 2023 #62
Weed is against federal law. Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #87
Thom Hartmann laid it all out gab13by13 Sep 2023 #53
Well, if you insist on going in circles: Beastly Boy Sep 2023 #55
+1. the 'gun app' charge stopdiggin Sep 2023 #75
I want Don Jr tested immediately. nt ecstatic Sep 2023 #57
Junior. KentuckyWoman Sep 2023 #66
Don't forget about that Madison Cawthorn guy... W_HAMILTON Sep 2023 #67
Well, maybe AncientOfDays Sep 2023 #78
K&R for visibility Blue Owl Sep 2023 #80
Except they aren't. FBaggins Sep 2023 #85
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