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brokechris

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37. new health care

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 09:07 PM

Nov 2012

at my last position, we had a benefits manager who did only health care stuff. She made a pretty large salary. Plus we had over 40 employees--who were all assisted quite a bit. My plan would have been 600-700 per month--I only paid around 80 per month (plus my copays).

So yeah--they could save considerably if they cut this benefit out.....

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Why is it that employers must provide/subsidize healthcare? [View all] Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 OP

I think he's right gollygee Nov 2012 #1

I'm hoping the business community will now want to support single payer... OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #3

That, I hope, will turn out to be the genius of ACA. PeaceNikki Nov 2012 #11

'xactly. ;) n/t OneGrassRoot Nov 2012 #13

It developed during WWII as a way to attract workers when wages were fixed. SharonAnn Nov 2012 #31

This is where he probably would disagree - since he would say that taking healthcare out of the Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #10

There's a big difference between health care and health insurance. yardwork Nov 2012 #28

Because we have an insane for-profit insurance industry? caraher Nov 2012 #2

health care costs brokechris Nov 2012 #14

Very few doctors make $300,000 a year. Most make a lot less than that. yardwork Nov 2012 #29

Not sure where you live, brokechris Nov 2012 #35

Doctor salaries are not the main driver of increased health care costs caraher Nov 2012 #32

I wasn't trying to say that they are a main driver. brokechris Nov 2012 #36

It's a trade-off postulater Nov 2012 #4

I agree - but then you would have to convince them that the cost of increased taxes would not Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #16

I could be totally wrong about this Lindsay Nov 2012 #5

It's an historic consequence of healthcare being an inticement to employment HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #6

exactly...."Doing the right thing." That is also was is also what is missing completely from Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #20

Right, wasn't it a way to get around a wage ceiling? treestar Nov 2012 #27

Yes I believe it was, then it became a "business as usual" alternative to monetary compensation HereSince1628 Nov 2012 #34

before businesses got involved MrYikes Nov 2012 #7

I was taught in college brokechris Nov 2012 #8

They used to do it as a benefit to attract and retain employees. geckosfeet Nov 2012 #9

back in the old days.... madrchsod Nov 2012 #12

yes. And also, a long time ago, you simply paid your "doctor visit" bills - maybe even had a Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #21

He is correct and they should not have to. Plus, why attach healthcare cost to American products?? Coyotl Nov 2012 #15

Not actually true quaker bill Nov 2012 #17

Therein lies the rub - we all know WHAT needs to happen to cure this problem. HughBeaumont Nov 2012 #18

Why not compromise. Why not de-couple routine healthcare from hospitalization? That's Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2012 #23

I like this idea! (nt) brokechris Nov 2012 #38

Because the U.S. MUST be capitalist LWolf Nov 2012 #19

It was once part of a benefits package to get and keep good workers. It also sometimes included juajen Nov 2012 #22

No, the asnwer should have been 100% nationalized HC Puzzledtraveller Nov 2012 #24

The answer is simply-- Who else? Every national system I'm aware of... TreasonousBastard Nov 2012 #25

A Culture of Corporate Dependency kurt_cagle Nov 2012 #26

This will soon, very soon, become the standard view for most businesses riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #30

new health care brokechris Nov 2012 #37

Your friend needs to study the history of post WWII American economics to find the answer. Egalitarian Thug Nov 2012 #33