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20. Agree 1000 and a half percent!

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Thu Sep 21, 2023, 09:07 AM

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I Told You Polls Were Used For Propaganda [View all] gab13by13 Sep 2023 OP

Or the polling methodolgy is obsolete. honest.abe Sep 2023 #1

All of these polls rely on the assumption that the sample is random. waterwatcher123 Sep 2023 #7

I get calls all day long from unknown numbers in other states vlyons Sep 2023 #26

I have an app that sends all calls from callers who are not in my contact list straight docgee Sep 2023 #32

They also now use a software moniss Sep 2023 #41

I get those, too. ShazzieB Sep 2023 #112

Hello there from Ft Worth! flying_wahini Sep 2023 #44

Howdy vlyons Sep 2023 #89

another Cowtown voter here Is Colin Alread your Congressman?? yellowdogintexas Sep 2023 #90

Mark Veasey is my congressman. vlyons Sep 2023 #92

oh I know, Marc's district is a piece of work. yellowdogintexas Sep 2023 #115

A combination. Obsolete methodology by many. Purposeful deception by many. bullimiami Sep 2023 #30

Agreed. honest.abe Sep 2023 #99

If that was the only reason, it've been obsolete since the 1990s, Hortensis Sep 2023 #43

Its more about cell phones with caller ID which have become more prevalent in recent years. honest.abe Sep 2023 #66

If the shoe was on the other foot Johnny2X2X Sep 2023 #2

The big story is the polls tell news outlets exactly what they want to hear... getagrip_already Sep 2023 #3

Agree! True Blue American Sep 2023 #5

Agreed Chi67 Sep 2023 #121

I saw the poll early this morning True Blue American Sep 2023 #4

Truth True Blue American Sep 2023 #6

Thank you for posting that segment, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #10

I have not written political polls, but I have written surveys for other areas. Lonestarblue Sep 2023 #8

I've never understood how the Poles are supposed to know so much. underpants Sep 2023 #9

Alternately BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #13

Very true, and the answers are directed at the wrong questions SouthernDem4ever Sep 2023 #25

Boy, is that accurate. soldierant Sep 2023 #123

It's because of the moniss Sep 2023 #28

😎 underpants Sep 2023 #38

Maybe Democrats "overperforming" is the new normal Doc Sportello Sep 2023 #11

I totally agree about saving democracy, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #14

Does a news personality's opinion trump that of the Biden campaign staff? brooklynite Sep 2023 #12

Just imagine if Democrats in NY gab13by13 Sep 2023 #15

But they didn't brooklynite Sep 2023 #19

Just imagine if Democrats had kept the House, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #22

It's kind of apples and oranges, isn't it? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #27

Both. In 2020 Biden's popular vote win was only 3%. brooklynite Sep 2023 #34

That was before supreme court had their say. Butterflylady Sep 2023 #40

I'll repeat my previous comment... brooklynite Sep 2023 #53

It was also when Biden's approval rating was about 55%, and he was 77 Polybius Sep 2023 #85

That is not how it works...we are in good shape for 24. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #102

Not the point Polybius Sep 2023 #120

No Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #60

Thank you for this. Nt scipan Sep 2023 #91

That is very kind- thanks! Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #95

7 million! True Blue American Sep 2023 #71

Um, No! ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #77

Trump was below 45% in most polls 2-4 weeks before the election Captain Zero Sep 2023 #83

Click on the Hayes link, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #47

Perhaps because a Presidential race isn't the same... brooklynite Sep 2023 #54

Maybe the low turnout for extreme Magat candidates gab13by13 Sep 2023 #55

And maybe not. I'll go with the. Biden campaign's assessment brooklynite Sep 2023 #58

Did they have a sit-down with you? I have seen internal polls you know. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #63

Yes they did; I attended a briefing with Biden's campaign manager, polling staff and messaging staff brooklynite Sep 2023 #75

I remember how you sat down with Fetterman and didn't think he would make...I see. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #97

You disapprove of.....what? brooklynite Sep 2023 #98

Repeating what was said in a private meeting on a website. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #100

I can evaluate whom I share information with and what that information is. brooklynite Sep 2023 #106

What about all the other special elections where Dems overperformed? Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #107

Where did I say "we're doomed"? I said the race will be close. Which is what the Biden campaign says brooklynite Sep 2023 #108

The MSM largely focuses on apples (national polls), while the meaningful data Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #61

"The polls accurately predicted that many races would be close." BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #33

Bums! This is the best rebuttal I have seen... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #62

Thanks! BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #87

That is funny...when I turned in my last phone for an apple 13...I think it was a LG14-loved that phone it still works... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #96

Excellent post! Spazito Sep 2023 #70

Thanks@ BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #88

Exactly! Spazito Sep 2023 #93

Chris had data to back up his assertions...I doubt the campaign folks are going to want to look over cofident Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #59

By reporting polls rather than news, news orgs just further the bias elias7 Sep 2023 #16

I told you, as well. lol Don't believe the hype. ancianita Sep 2023 #17

The more the media says... druidity33 Sep 2023 #18

Agree 1000 and a half percent! ananda Sep 2023 #20

Usually it happens this way GreenWave Sep 2023 #21

I watched Hayes' segment. No discussion of "propaganda" or "fake" polls brooklynite Sep 2023 #23

You missed the point...Hayes assertation was that the success of Democrats since well 2017 indicates Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #65

The OP specifically claims "propaganda" brooklynite Sep 2023 #68

Some of those polls are propaganda funded by he right like Real Clear Politics...but others are just worthless... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #101

The early polls are useful if you know how to interpret them. brooklynite Sep 2023 #104

Clinton v Trump should have taught us SouthernDem4ever Sep 2023 #24

Those polls were accurate SCantiGOP Sep 2023 #64

I'm not "poll" material according to their own methodologies. 4lbs Sep 2023 #29

Good post! That 'can you hear me' scam you mention is good to know about. n/t PatrickforB Sep 2023 #36

Here's a clip from Lawrence O'Donnell... Joinfortmill Sep 2023 #31

Nice post! Yep, these polls get paid for by super Pacs, as far as I know. PatrickforB Sep 2023 #35

We should also remember that their is a republican presidential primary going on right now Mr. Sparkle Sep 2023 #37

The Magat primary is over unless Trump tips over. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #48

I don't think most polls are propaganda. I think the problem is many people do not answer JohnSJ Sep 2023 #39

I watched the polls carefully during the Fetterman election. And some were undoubtedly propaganda funded by Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #67

No doubt JohnSJ Sep 2023 #72

Will point, again, to the PA May municipal primary Deminpenn Sep 2023 #42

Polls have always been used for propaganda - push polling being the extreme example hueymahl Sep 2023 #45

Two things. RandySF Sep 2023 #46

ive never trusted pollitical polls AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #49

I believe in exit polling, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #50

As already stated, methodologies are out of whack and because of this. Prairie_Seagull Sep 2023 #51

Remember when Nate Silver was accurate? PurgedVoter Sep 2023 #52

Yup, he pulled a Lyndsey Graham. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #56

I saw that...you and I have been saying this along with a few others as doom and gloom posts about worthless Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #57

I posted it above. The link. I can not get the video to come through. True Blue American Sep 2023 #73

I agree there is a huge conspiracy Bumbolbeee Sep 2023 #69

Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Sep 2023 #74

The one described in the thread title Bumbolbeee Sep 2023 #76

I watched this Chris Hayes segment last night KS Toronado Sep 2023 #79

Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #82

Welcome yankee87 Sep 2023 #94

Another reason why I never miss a Chris Hayes show. He brings things into focus for BComplex Sep 2023 #78

I just remember how far off the polls were especially in the Pennsylvania election of lees1975 Sep 2023 #80

Wife and I voted in Pa. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #84

Dobbs changed everything. Qutzupalotl Sep 2023 #81

If I remember correctly everything changed after Dobbs including the polls. everyonematters Sep 2023 #86

That is completely not true. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #103

This form 538 everyonematters Sep 2023 #111

So you think Dobbs doesn't matter? Your are wrong IMHO...time will tell. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #105

Yup.... Think. Again. Sep 2023 #109

Clickbate. That's what the MSM Roc2020 Sep 2023 #110

Here you go, I posted the video in V&M last night: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2023 #113

correction NJCher Sep 2023 #114

There are many polls. Pick the one you like and swear by it. Swear at the others. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #116

Or average them Bumbolbeee Sep 2023 #126

Polls keep many people transfixed on the TV The Wizard Sep 2023 #117

I saw that. It was reassuring. calimary Sep 2023 #118

Polls mean nothing. Aussie105 Sep 2023 #119

Polls. It's always the same LakeArenal Sep 2023 #122

I watched the same thing, and no, that's not the message Silent3 Sep 2023 #124

+1 C Moon Sep 2023 #125