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Deminpenn

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42. Will point, again, to the PA May municipal primary
Thu Sep 21, 2023, 09:59 AM
Sep 2023

results for my local school board. A bloc of candidates who represent rational and moderate policies ousted a bloc of rw and tax-ophobic incumbents. In local elections, most candidates cross-file as both R and D. The sane bloc defeated every rw member on the Dem primary side. On the R primary, all but one of the sane candidates won and the who lost had to run as a write-in and still only lost by a handful of votes.

I live in a heavily R area. Dems have little to chance of winning for anything unless they are unopposed. To me, this vote showed that people, even in R, conservative places, are tired of the rw craziness and want elected officials to work together to solve problems.

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Or the polling methodolgy is obsolete. honest.abe Sep 2023 #1
All of these polls rely on the assumption that the sample is random. waterwatcher123 Sep 2023 #7
I get calls all day long from unknown numbers in other states vlyons Sep 2023 #26
I have an app that sends all calls from callers who are not in my contact list straight docgee Sep 2023 #32
They also now use a software moniss Sep 2023 #41
I get those, too. ShazzieB Sep 2023 #112
Hello there from Ft Worth! flying_wahini Sep 2023 #44
Howdy vlyons Sep 2023 #89
another Cowtown voter here Is Colin Alread your Congressman?? yellowdogintexas Sep 2023 #90
Mark Veasey is my congressman. vlyons Sep 2023 #92
oh I know, Marc's district is a piece of work. yellowdogintexas Sep 2023 #115
A combination. Obsolete methodology by many. Purposeful deception by many. bullimiami Sep 2023 #30
Agreed. honest.abe Sep 2023 #99
If that was the only reason, it've been obsolete since the 1990s, Hortensis Sep 2023 #43
Its more about cell phones with caller ID which have become more prevalent in recent years. honest.abe Sep 2023 #66
If the shoe was on the other foot Johnny2X2X Sep 2023 #2
The big story is the polls tell news outlets exactly what they want to hear... getagrip_already Sep 2023 #3
Agree! True Blue American Sep 2023 #5
Agreed Chi67 Sep 2023 #121
I saw the poll early this morning True Blue American Sep 2023 #4
Truth True Blue American Sep 2023 #6
Thank you for posting that segment, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #10
I have not written political polls, but I have written surveys for other areas. Lonestarblue Sep 2023 #8
I've never understood how the Poles are supposed to know so much. underpants Sep 2023 #9
Alternately BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #13
Very true, and the answers are directed at the wrong questions SouthernDem4ever Sep 2023 #25
Boy, is that accurate. soldierant Sep 2023 #123
It's because of the moniss Sep 2023 #28
😎 underpants Sep 2023 #38
Maybe Democrats "overperforming" is the new normal Doc Sportello Sep 2023 #11
I totally agree about saving democracy, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #14
Does a news personality's opinion trump that of the Biden campaign staff? brooklynite Sep 2023 #12
Just imagine if Democrats in NY gab13by13 Sep 2023 #15
But they didn't brooklynite Sep 2023 #19
Just imagine if Democrats had kept the House, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #22
It's kind of apples and oranges, isn't it? Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #27
Both. In 2020 Biden's popular vote win was only 3%. brooklynite Sep 2023 #34
That was before supreme court had their say. Butterflylady Sep 2023 #40
I'll repeat my previous comment... brooklynite Sep 2023 #53
It was also when Biden's approval rating was about 55%, and he was 77 Polybius Sep 2023 #85
That is not how it works...we are in good shape for 24. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #102
Not the point Polybius Sep 2023 #120
No Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #60
Thank you for this. Nt scipan Sep 2023 #91
That is very kind- thanks! Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #95
7 million! True Blue American Sep 2023 #71
Um, No! ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #77
Trump was below 45% in most polls 2-4 weeks before the election Captain Zero Sep 2023 #83
Click on the Hayes link, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #47
Perhaps because a Presidential race isn't the same... brooklynite Sep 2023 #54
Maybe the low turnout for extreme Magat candidates gab13by13 Sep 2023 #55
And maybe not. I'll go with the. Biden campaign's assessment brooklynite Sep 2023 #58
Did they have a sit-down with you? I have seen internal polls you know. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #63
Yes they did; I attended a briefing with Biden's campaign manager, polling staff and messaging staff brooklynite Sep 2023 #75
I remember how you sat down with Fetterman and didn't think he would make...I see. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #97
You disapprove of.....what? brooklynite Sep 2023 #98
Repeating what was said in a private meeting on a website. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #100
I can evaluate whom I share information with and what that information is. brooklynite Sep 2023 #106
What about all the other special elections where Dems overperformed? Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #107
Where did I say "we're doomed"? I said the race will be close. Which is what the Biden campaign says brooklynite Sep 2023 #108
The MSM largely focuses on apples (national polls), while the meaningful data Fiendish Thingy Sep 2023 #61
"The polls accurately predicted that many races would be close." BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #33
Bums! This is the best rebuttal I have seen... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #62
Thanks! BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #87
That is funny...when I turned in my last phone for an apple 13...I think it was a LG14-loved that phone it still works... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #96
Excellent post! Spazito Sep 2023 #70
Thanks@ BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #88
Exactly! Spazito Sep 2023 #93
Chris had data to back up his assertions...I doubt the campaign folks are going to want to look over cofident Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #59
By reporting polls rather than news, news orgs just further the bias elias7 Sep 2023 #16
I told you, as well. lol Don't believe the hype. ancianita Sep 2023 #17
The more the media says... druidity33 Sep 2023 #18
Agree 1000 and a half percent! ananda Sep 2023 #20
Usually it happens this way GreenWave Sep 2023 #21
I watched Hayes' segment. No discussion of "propaganda" or "fake" polls brooklynite Sep 2023 #23
You missed the point...Hayes assertation was that the success of Democrats since well 2017 indicates Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #65
The OP specifically claims "propaganda" brooklynite Sep 2023 #68
Some of those polls are propaganda funded by he right like Real Clear Politics...but others are just worthless... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #101
The early polls are useful if you know how to interpret them. brooklynite Sep 2023 #104
Clinton v Trump should have taught us SouthernDem4ever Sep 2023 #24
Those polls were accurate SCantiGOP Sep 2023 #64
I'm not "poll" material according to their own methodologies. 4lbs Sep 2023 #29
Good post! That 'can you hear me' scam you mention is good to know about. n/t PatrickforB Sep 2023 #36
Here's a clip from Lawrence O'Donnell... Joinfortmill Sep 2023 #31
Nice post! Yep, these polls get paid for by super Pacs, as far as I know. PatrickforB Sep 2023 #35
We should also remember that their is a republican presidential primary going on right now Mr. Sparkle Sep 2023 #37
The Magat primary is over unless Trump tips over. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #48
I don't think most polls are propaganda. I think the problem is many people do not answer JohnSJ Sep 2023 #39
I watched the polls carefully during the Fetterman election. And some were undoubtedly propaganda funded by Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #67
No doubt JohnSJ Sep 2023 #72
Will point, again, to the PA May municipal primary Deminpenn Sep 2023 #42
Polls have always been used for propaganda - push polling being the extreme example hueymahl Sep 2023 #45
Two things. RandySF Sep 2023 #46
ive never trusted pollitical polls AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #49
I believe in exit polling, gab13by13 Sep 2023 #50
As already stated, methodologies are out of whack and because of this. Prairie_Seagull Sep 2023 #51
Remember when Nate Silver was accurate? PurgedVoter Sep 2023 #52
Yup, he pulled a Lyndsey Graham. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #56
I saw that...you and I have been saying this along with a few others as doom and gloom posts about worthless Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #57
I posted it above. The link. I can not get the video to come through. True Blue American Sep 2023 #73
I agree there is a huge conspiracy Bumbolbeee Sep 2023 #69
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Sep 2023 #74
The one described in the thread title Bumbolbeee Sep 2023 #76
I watched this Chris Hayes segment last night KS Toronado Sep 2023 #79
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2023 #82
Welcome yankee87 Sep 2023 #94
Another reason why I never miss a Chris Hayes show. He brings things into focus for BComplex Sep 2023 #78
I just remember how far off the polls were especially in the Pennsylvania election of lees1975 Sep 2023 #80
Wife and I voted in Pa. gab13by13 Sep 2023 #84
Dobbs changed everything. Qutzupalotl Sep 2023 #81
If I remember correctly everything changed after Dobbs including the polls. everyonematters Sep 2023 #86
That is completely not true. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #103
This form 538 everyonematters Sep 2023 #111
So you think Dobbs doesn't matter? Your are wrong IMHO...time will tell. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #105
Yup.... Think. Again. Sep 2023 #109
Clickbate. That's what the MSM Roc2020 Sep 2023 #110
Here you go, I posted the video in V&M last night: Rhiannon12866 Sep 2023 #113
correction NJCher Sep 2023 #114
There are many polls. Pick the one you like and swear by it. Swear at the others. keithbvadu2 Sep 2023 #116
Or average them Bumbolbeee Sep 2023 #126
Polls keep many people transfixed on the TV The Wizard Sep 2023 #117
I saw that. It was reassuring. calimary Sep 2023 #118
Polls mean nothing. Aussie105 Sep 2023 #119
Polls. It's always the same LakeArenal Sep 2023 #122
I watched the same thing, and no, that's not the message Silent3 Sep 2023 #124
+1 C Moon Sep 2023 #125
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