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pinkstarburst

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53. Here are the numbers
Sun Sep 24, 2023, 07:31 AM
Sep 2023

In 2022, 2 million migrants illegally crossed the southern border.

1.2 million crossed through Texas.
249K crossed through California

That's a pretty big disparity. California is having to deal with migrants crossing its borders, sure. But Texas is having to deal with FIVE TIMES the number.

And no, it's not fair to say, those 1.2 million people show up every year in your state because you happen to border Mexico, so it's your job as governor to deal with it. Immigration is a national issue. Biden should be either 1) securing the border to slow or manage the number of people coming across or 2) providing the busses to transport people out of Texas immediately when they cross the border and distributing them to all 50 states. Your argument that they should go to a close-by state... why? So New York or Massachusetts doesn't have to deal with the problem? All 50 states should have to receive migrants on a weekly basis if our values say that we support allowing them in.

So if democrats and this administration do not like the methods for the bussing or the organization of it (I as a taxpayer am personally frustrated that my Texan tax dollars have to be used to do this when FEDERAL money should be used to pay for this), then they take over the task for Abbott and organize better bussing themselves. Start sending migrants to every state in the lower 48 and coordinate with those governors to let them know the busses are coming.

Biden won't do this. It would be a PR nightmare if he were responsible for the busses. He would lose votes from independents and moderates who are steamed when migrants begin showing up in their neighborhoods just like democrats in blue cities are steamed about it now. It's NIMBYism, plain and simple. Which is why Biden is perfectly happy to let Abbott take the fall for this one. But as a democrat, I can't entirely fault Abbott on this one. I detest Abbott and all the goons in the Texas government, but in this, they are not entirely wrong. Everyone has abandoned Texas and left us to deal with the mess at the southern border for decades. Abbott making the problem visible and moving these people along to other places so they are not all in Texas is a good thing.

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No one should be "mad" at Texas pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #1
Screw that. Texas should be required to keep them and house, feed, etc, them ALL Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #2
And here I thought immigration was a national issue ripcord Sep 2023 #3
How very NIMBY n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2023 #4
It's not NIMBYism Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #5
Laughable SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2023 #6
So you WANT Texas' problem to become Democratic states' problem? Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #7
It's not a Texas problem SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2023 #8
You aren't understanding ripcord Sep 2023 #9
And the national policy should be Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #10
Why? SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2023 #11
Because that's where they're coming in Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #12
How are our families... stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #29
That's where the problem is. pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #14
Fine. If Texas is stubbornly refusing to come around to the RIGHT-THINKING side Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #15
Again, immigration is a national issue pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #17
+1 n/t area51 Sep 2023 #18
"NIMBYism isn't going to work." Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #20
The hypocrisy is stunning n/t SickOfTheOnePct Sep 2023 #21
Is it, though? Sympthsical Sep 2023 #62
It is NIMBYism, plain and simple pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #24
Well, okay, friend Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #25
You mean... stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #28
I meant that when Mayor Eric Adams is on video saying refugees Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #30
Do your attacks... stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #31
I'm trying to prevent Democrats from being attacked Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #32
You are... stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #33
I'm not demonising anyone but Greg Abbott and all Goppers generally Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #35
Do you... stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #36
Yes. (?) Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #38
Democrats in Texas are already being attacked by the migrant population. TexasTowelie Sep 2023 #52
+1 n/t ChazII Sep 2023 #65
Texas Hispanics intelpug Sep 2023 #57
My wife often rides the bus. stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #67
It's not Texas' problem pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #13
Maybe you could start Zeitghost Sep 2023 #41
I DON'T have a problem with immigrants. Far from it Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #50
And yet you seem to agree with the Gov. of Texas Zeitghost Sep 2023 #69
Wrong. I don't want them used by Goppers to embarrass or target Democrats (n/t) Seeking Serenity Sep 2023 #70
Even if Zeitghost Sep 2023 #71
Do you have ANY idea how bad posts like yours in this thread make Democrats look? highplainsdem Sep 2023 #39
Rant on. TexasTowelie Sep 2023 #51
We can be mad at Abbott for acting like a whiny little ***** In It to Win It Sep 2023 #26
I agree that the way it's being done pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #34
Several points for me In It to Win It Sep 2023 #42
Here are the numbers pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #53
You're ignoring the point entirely but okay In It to Win It Sep 2023 #56
And this is the problem pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #59
You can guess how that conversation would go In It to Win It Sep 2023 #63
Greg Abbott ought to be schmeared underneath the wheels of a bus... DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #47
they pass through Texas treestar Sep 2023 #40
I think you are quite right that Democrats across the country should be DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #45
War against Mexico intelpug Sep 2023 #58
People like to say they are pro-immigrant Sympthsical Sep 2023 #60
Process immigrants faster. Freethinker65 Sep 2023 #16
It is not a Texas-Mexico border. It is a U.S.-Mexico border. In fact, the border is federal property dalton99a Sep 2023 #19
A good start? Pantagruel Sep 2023 #22
Fixing the migrant problem Mad_Machine76 Sep 2023 #23
+1000000000000000000 In It to Win It Sep 2023 #43
Geeze! What a Train Wreck of a Thread! stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #27
You can't move people who don't want to go Zeitghost Sep 2023 #37
"the results seem to be all positive."...... DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #46
Are they better off in CA/NY or not? Zeitghost Sep 2023 #68
The bussing is not the problem. KentuckyWoman Sep 2023 #44
Yes, "inhumane treatment is a problem"... or rather, THE PROBLEM DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #48
The federal government KentuckyWoman Sep 2023 #49
Whose responsibility is this? pinkstarburst Sep 2023 #54
I really don't snowybirdie Sep 2023 #55
Treating people.. stuck in the middle Sep 2023 #61
I hold with great conviction the problem are imaginary red and black lines on map Torchlight Sep 2023 #64
Or stop them from coming here Polybius Sep 2023 #66
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