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59. Just like this one - you won't join in with the cheering that he is a rapist

Wed Sep 27, 2023, 05:58 AM

Sep 2023

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217898350
Why I won't join in with the cheering that Trump is "Guilty" of "Rape".

I'm happy that E Jeanne Carroll has had justice, and Trump's anti-social behavior is now a matter of public record. But in spending time discussing issues here and on social media, I've learned the that good communications is based on a common understanding of "language". Words have specific meanings, which is why we have a lot of different ones. When I write or say something, I want the meaning to be clear. Trump isn't GUILTY, because "guilty" is a status that is derived from a "conviction" in a "criminal trial". And he was found to have committed SEXUAL ASSAULT because "rape" is a version of sexual assault which has a specific definition that wasn't asserted by Carroll and wasn't proven by the jury. I'll stick with the actual terms.

And then we got this from the WP no less

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/19/trump-carroll-judge-rape/
Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll

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I hate to spoil everyone's fun, but people are misinterpreting the NY Trump ruling... [View all] brooklynite Sep 2023 OP

Thank you PJMcK Sep 2023 #1

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I think his problem is he can't make money in the state... Grins Sep 2023 #37

Speaking of getting whacked... Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #80

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Fine by me. Wednesdays Sep 2023 #12

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though true, my understand some of the sanctions Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #3

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Great post Just_Vote_Dem Sep 2023 #6

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #14

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Agree, I am listening to a TikTok live, with a lawyer reading the entire judgement --so interesting ismnotwasm Sep 2023 #19

This! senseandsensibility Sep 2023 #21

Ugh--thank you! crimycarny Sep 2023 #29

From my ForgedCrank Sep 2023 #70

Most excellent malaise Sep 2023 #31

Thank you! HAB911 Sep 2023 #63

I was not surprised who the author (of the original post) is. triron Sep 2023 #72

Right. H2O Man Sep 2023 #74

Ask Slobby if yesterday was a big deal- his demented response speaks,volumes malaise Sep 2023 #76

Yes. H2O Man Sep 2023 #77

I would hope so malaise Sep 2023 #78

Oh c'mon BeyondGeography Sep 2023 #7

Do you? Surprisingly, I do not. Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #10

Fine as can be hoped for, thank you BeyondGeography Sep 2023 #18

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Ha ha, my thought exactly. Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #79

..... obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #88

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You could be a great internet lawyer dpibel Sep 2023 #11

My wife is a public servant at the Treasury Department... brooklynite Sep 2023 #32

Who is this man of straw of whom you speak? dpibel Sep 2023 #36

In other threads, people have been talking about... brooklynite Sep 2023 #42

You are a funny guy dpibel Sep 2023 #45

go check the records. all of his many entities (even in other states) Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #56

lol Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #53

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If I understood correctly, attorney Lisa Rubin just said spooky3 Sep 2023 #15

Correct, the OP is mistaken obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #89

TY nt spooky3 Sep 2023 #93

NP! obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #95

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I don't belive you are anywhere near correct..... getagrip_already Sep 2023 #17

OP is incorrect obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #90

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How's he gonna MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #35

Very easily. former9thward Sep 2023 #47

Does he control it dpibel Sep 2023 #50

no. he is fucked Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #57

The receiver just can't do anything they want. former9thward Sep 2023 #64

one thing that may be overlooked bigtree Sep 2023 #66

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There is no court judgment. former9thward Sep 2023 #105

And, Buyers Aren't Stupid ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #100

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Which We Know Is Nonsense ProfessorGAC Sep 2023 #103

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LOL. LowerManhattanite Sep 2023 #28

Question from a lesser mortal dpibel Sep 2023 #30

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Hm. ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #82

I heard the businesses will go into the hands of "receivers" Captain Zero Sep 2023 #38

None of Trump Orgs liabilities are immediately called in... brooklynite Sep 2023 #44

you are so wrong Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #58

lol that is the opposite of what will be happening obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #98

Sure Jan maxrandb Sep 2023 #39

I have to disagree on one minor point--- DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #40

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Yes, that was my own opinion... DemocraticPatriot Sep 2023 #46

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Who said anything was being seized? herding cats Sep 2023 #48

Oh, you lesser mortal! dpibel Sep 2023 #49

That was awesome. Moosepoop Sep 2023 #52

+1 dalton99a Sep 2023 #54

+2 Sky Jewels Sep 2023 #81

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well done obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #92

Nailed it malaise Sep 2023 #60

Perfect response.... Spazito Sep 2023 #61

I thought my "Sure Jan" post was good maxrandb Sep 2023 #67

interesting Snooper9 Sep 2023 #73

the poster was speaking in future tense Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #108

negative Snooper9 Sep 2023 #110

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Just like this one - you won't join in with the cheering that he is a rapist malaise Sep 2023 #59

+1. "Trump is an authoritarian or fascist"? Hmmm. "Traitor"? Heavens, NO! Define "treason"! dalton99a Sep 2023 #68

Exactly. H2O Man Sep 2023 #75

right again --and what he did clearly is in the scope as federal law spooky3 Sep 2023 #102

Correct is right malaise Sep 2023 #106

Your actual take, or copied & pasted from X/Twitter? nt Rob H. Sep 2023 #65

This thread went very well, I think. BannonsLiver Sep 2023 #69

How condescending...just trying to educate lesser mortals I guess... Demsrule86 Sep 2023 #71

NY Times: The decision dealt Mr. Trump a major blow. honest.abe Sep 2023 #84

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The fun will come after the trial. ananda Sep 2023 #86

OP is mistaken -- the assets cannot be transferred obamanut2012 Sep 2023 #94

Well this did not turn out quite as expected, did it? Voltaire2 Sep 2023 #99

yep Recycle_Guru Sep 2023 #107

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