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In reply to the discussion: Sen. Warren Helpfully Identifies Medicare Trustee Nominee's Glaring Conflict Of Interest For Him [View all]Celerity
(54,622 posts)10. yes it is: Medicare Advantage Is a Massive Scam
The program rips off both the taxpayer and its own enrollees.
https://prospect.org/health/medicare-advantage-is-a-massive-scam/

If youve ever watched cable news, where the average viewer is in their late sixties, youve probably seen an advertisement for a Medicare Advantage plan. They usually star some washed-up celebrity whose career peaked right around when todays retirees were young adults (think Jimmy Walker or Joe Namath). And they always make a lot of big promises about how great Medicare Advantage coverage is. Theres just one problem: The sales pitch is an abject lie. Medicare Advantage is much worse than traditional Medicare for people on the program and costs a great deal more to boot. But unless the Biden administration changes course, private companies will soon devour the rest of the program.
Medicare Advantage plans are typically a combination of Medigap plans, which cover services not included in the government plan like vision and dental, plus a privatized version of traditional Medicare. About 28 million American seniors are now on Advantage plans, or about 40 percent of the whole program. As Barbara Caress explains in the Prospect, it was set up back in the late 1990s as a way for those wonderful private insurance companies we all know and love to work their free-market magic on one corner of the system America carved out as publicly run. Once we got business involved, surely the quality of coverage would improve and costs would go down, right?
The problem with this logic, as people realized even back in the glory days of neoliberalism, is that there are a lot of perverse financial incentives in health insurance, particularly when it comes to seniors. Half the reason the government set up Medicare in the first place was that as people reach the end of life, they tend to become sick and require more treatment than they can personally afford. In the pre-Medicare days, private companies did all they could to keep them off the insurance rolls.
Introducing the profit motive into Medicare has led to considerable hoop-jumping just to prevent such cravenness. For instance, if the government were to calculate the average per-person cost of Medicare and pay private companies that much per enrollee, companies would scramble to snap up all the younger, healthier seniors with relatively few problems, and cream off some easy profits. As Matt Bruenig explains, thats why the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services maintains a gigantic database of every single one of the roughly 64 million Medicare enrollees, and assigns them all a risk score based on their demographic and health characteristics. Advantage companies then get paid, in theory at least, according to how sick their risk pools are.
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https://prospect.org/health/medicare-advantage-is-a-massive-scam/

If youve ever watched cable news, where the average viewer is in their late sixties, youve probably seen an advertisement for a Medicare Advantage plan. They usually star some washed-up celebrity whose career peaked right around when todays retirees were young adults (think Jimmy Walker or Joe Namath). And they always make a lot of big promises about how great Medicare Advantage coverage is. Theres just one problem: The sales pitch is an abject lie. Medicare Advantage is much worse than traditional Medicare for people on the program and costs a great deal more to boot. But unless the Biden administration changes course, private companies will soon devour the rest of the program.
Medicare Advantage plans are typically a combination of Medigap plans, which cover services not included in the government plan like vision and dental, plus a privatized version of traditional Medicare. About 28 million American seniors are now on Advantage plans, or about 40 percent of the whole program. As Barbara Caress explains in the Prospect, it was set up back in the late 1990s as a way for those wonderful private insurance companies we all know and love to work their free-market magic on one corner of the system America carved out as publicly run. Once we got business involved, surely the quality of coverage would improve and costs would go down, right?
The problem with this logic, as people realized even back in the glory days of neoliberalism, is that there are a lot of perverse financial incentives in health insurance, particularly when it comes to seniors. Half the reason the government set up Medicare in the first place was that as people reach the end of life, they tend to become sick and require more treatment than they can personally afford. In the pre-Medicare days, private companies did all they could to keep them off the insurance rolls.
Introducing the profit motive into Medicare has led to considerable hoop-jumping just to prevent such cravenness. For instance, if the government were to calculate the average per-person cost of Medicare and pay private companies that much per enrollee, companies would scramble to snap up all the younger, healthier seniors with relatively few problems, and cream off some easy profits. As Matt Bruenig explains, thats why the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services maintains a gigantic database of every single one of the roughly 64 million Medicare enrollees, and assigns them all a risk score based on their demographic and health characteristics. Advantage companies then get paid, in theory at least, according to how sick their risk pools are.
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Sen. Warren Helpfully Identifies Medicare Trustee Nominee's Glaring Conflict Of Interest For Him [View all]
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2023
OP
Yeah, why listen to anyone with Medicare Advantage connections? Just 51% of beneficiaries choose MA.
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#1
I'm saying MA was passed by Congress. 51% of beneficiaries voluntarily choose it.
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#4
Like it or not, Medicare Advantage is likely the future of Medicare. Why not appoint someone with
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#12
Because he intends to take money from people making a profit from it
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2023
#14
Great, he has experience. So we should just turn a blind eye to his conflict of interest?
progressoid
Sep 2023
#16
Do you know anything about boards for companies that contract with Medicare? They include patients,
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#21
Senator Warren should talk to Biden and CMS head, rather than doing a hit job like she did in 2016
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#35
If they (Biden?) can make him give up his board seat, they should have talked to him about it.
progressoid
Sep 2023
#66
Yeah, Medicare Advantage originally signed by President Clinton was "sneaky." It was called Part C.
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#41
According to a Washington Post reporter, the trustee appointments are traditionally bipartisan
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2023
#99
Because his loyalty is to his company. Do you see what is happening to working people?
onecaliberal
Sep 2023
#79
it's not simple connections-- he appears to have a major conflict of interest
LymphocyteLover
Sep 2023
#15
Deflection is a favorite tool. First address the issues that are raised by Sen. Warren.
erronis
Sep 2023
#27
I did. To improve MA -- chosen by over half Medicare beneficiaries -- you have to have people who
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#71
You still avoid addressing the conflict of interest while promoting MA.
Hermit-The-Prog
Sep 2023
#101
I don't understand. Medicare Advantage is in place of Medicare? I thought it was a supplement?
Srkdqltr
Sep 2023
#3
Medicare beneficiaries can choose traditional Medicare or Medicare Advantage. 51% selected MA
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#6
Thank you. I have Medicare and Blue Cross. That is how it worked when I retired in the last
Srkdqltr
Sep 2023
#13
Professor, I suspect you can afford the $300/month for a supplement and drug plan. Believe it or not
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#26
How much are you spending for supplement and drugs? Is that amount the difference in you having a
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#32
Professor, no I'm saying until we get something better, Med Advantage is the best poor people are
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#67
I didn't question your decision, your, intelligence or your knowledge but calling
Wonder Why
Sep 2023
#74
No, it's essentially replacing Medicare and is a stealth attack by the insurance industry to
Lonestarblue
Sep 2023
#18
Well, the insurance "industry" by definition is for profit. I think you mean health insurance.
erronis
Sep 2023
#36
They just did get serious by appointing this guy. Like it or not, MA is not going away.
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#7
the new scam advert I just saw on the MSNBC stream I watch claims the MA may well pay a decent part
Celerity
Sep 2023
#25
Oh, boy - it's like a race to the bottom between them, and the Reverse Mortgage fraudsters
peppertree
Sep 2023
#39
Scam started by President Clinton. I enjoy you insights Celerity, but you live where people don't
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#49
Well over half Medicare beneficiaries have chosen it. Glad people think they are smarter than those
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#45
Facts. I don't have MA, but if I lived in a big city, I'd sure consider it.
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#51
Actually, as I age I will probably have to go to MA. Again, it amazes me that over half Medicare
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#59
I'm saying, Biden knows what he is doing. Improving Medicare Adv will do more good for the poor
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#50
He worked with CMS/Medicare before getting on the Board. If he doesn't resign, they can make him.
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#60
MA is the juncture of taxpayer funding and corporate monetization of healthcare.
jaxexpat
Sep 2023
#47
As is traditional Medicare. It's locally administered by insurance companies, private insurers make
Silent Type
Sep 2023
#73
What the hell are you talking about. Medicare is not administered by insurance companies.
erronis
Sep 2023
#81
How could there possibly be any confusion about Medicare with all the facts we have, eh?
jaxexpat
Sep 2023
#83
can't be trusted during testimony?🤨sure as fuck can't be trusted with our best imterests!🖕
bringthePaine
Sep 2023
#75
We were directed to Medicare Advantage after losing our PPO Medicare coverage through SAG.
SleeplessinSoCal
Sep 2023
#93