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MineralMan

(151,532 posts)
Sun Oct 1, 2023, 10:00 AM Oct 2023

My Take on the Republican Snub of the MAGAts Yesterday [View all]

This week will be very interesting, as the small group of MAGA House members takes their shot at kicking the Speaker off his job. Republicans, in the majority, said no to the MAGAts yesterday. They were joined, rightfully, by Democrats to put a stop to the shutdown of the Federal government.

Now, the real fun begins. They're going to try to remove McCarthy as Speaker this week. How's that going to work? Here's what I think:

First, they'll bring the question of forcing McCarthy to vacate his seat. The MAGATs will scream and whine. If the rest of the Republicans decide that's not what should happen, enough Democratic House members will join them in voting to keep McCarthy on the job. Why? Because that is the best result that can happen. The Democrats who vote that way should not be lambasted by Democrats. We need the House to be a viable legislative body, which it can only be if the Speaker is someone who is willing to defy the MAGATs on really crucial issues, like McCarthy did with the continuing resolution.

The result for Republicans will be chaos, but a reduced level of chaos. If what I think will happen does happen, the far right wing in the House is just about to lose its hold on Republican members. They're all running in 2024, and are beginning to realize that the far right does not represent most Republicans in their districts. They are vulnerable, in at least enough districts to return the majority to the Democrats. If they back the right-wing, they will lose in enough districts to make that happen.

They're trying desperately to hang onto their phony baloney jobs. In the end, it's not going to work. Enough Democrats will flip enough seats to regain the majority.

Bottom line is that this nonsense may well be the thing that finally destroys the GOP. I dearly hope so. We should let them duke it out among themselves, and do whatever is needed to keep the conflict alive. If that means voting to Keep McCarthy on the job, so be it.

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Hope this confusion reflects back on Trump, he's puppeteering the GOP bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #1
Trump? Whatever. MineralMan Oct 2023 #2
Big donors are courting Youngkin. He is no better than any other Republican but hides his Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #17
He's the kind of republican that scares the shit out of me. Probatim Oct 2023 #45
His abortion actions and words will do him in...he only got elected because of monuments... Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #49
Interesting. ananda Oct 2023 #18
That is my hope. MineralMan Oct 2023 #19
There have been waves of these extremists before - they crash into the shore erronis Oct 2023 #28
Does your prescience have anything to say about cilla4progress Oct 2023 #27
Nope. Take your pick. MineralMan Oct 2023 #30
if not telling them what to do, azureblue Oct 2023 #46
Never spoken in all this is that the Speaker is 3rd in line to the presidency Captain Zero Oct 2023 #3
I doubt that is a real concern, to tell the truth. MineralMan Oct 2023 #4
That is an excellent post...I have never thought of that...good lord! Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #50
I agree wholeheartedly. Democrats need to vote rationally. MaryMagdaline Oct 2023 #5
I heard... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #6
You know that the only way we solve this problem is to MineralMan Oct 2023 #10
I only... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #11
Elections are the only thing that can get us out of this mess... Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #51
And Elections Are Also How We Keep Messes Like This from Happening MineralMan Oct 2023 #55
I hope Gaetz brings up a No Confidence and gets sand kicked in his face to knock him down a peg. TheBlackAdder Oct 2023 #7
Well, I love to hear stories like this. Arthur_Frain Oct 2023 #8
I don't think the House MAGAts believe what they spew. QED Oct 2023 #15
Some do, some don't, I think. Arthur_Frain Oct 2023 #23
Some do and some don't. However it doesn't matter what they believe. If McCarthy hadn't Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #52
It took a fiasco of this magnitude to get the media to notice Republicans are in disarray gratuitous Oct 2023 #9
I don't know if this is common everywhere... Hugin Oct 2023 #12
Right!! Traildogbob Oct 2023 #24
Yes... or worse, they actually run as Democrats. live love laugh Oct 2023 #57
Kick & Rec, MM Hekate Oct 2023 #13
Simply put Nasruddin Oct 2023 #14
Judging by the votes on the Continuing Resolution, Gaetz doesn't even have the majority of GOP votes DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #16
He doesn't! True Blue American Oct 2023 #39
Someone said he only needs five? This is to vacate the speakership. I don't know if this is true. Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #53
I agree with you. republianmushroom Oct 2023 #20
If the bill funding Ukraine passes the house SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #21
Oh, OK... MineralMan Oct 2023 #22
Nice write-up, and nice to hear from you! I kind of predicted that eventually some repugs would SWBTATTReg Oct 2023 #25
Bullies are like that. cilla4progress Oct 2023 #26
And math doesn't matter? quakerboy Oct 2023 #29
Of course it matters. MineralMan Oct 2023 #31
There are more democrats quakerboy Oct 2023 #59
That's what I keep asking myself. n/t Hugin Oct 2023 #32
Because McCarthy won't shut the government down when this agreement expires and is our Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #54
Please explain why you think speaker Jeffries will quakerboy Oct 2023 #58
Thanks for the perspective! BadGimp Oct 2023 #33
Republicans are MAGATS. McCarthy is a MAGAT. live love laugh Oct 2023 #34
What happens if the Dems don't stand up for Mccarthy? RainCaster Oct 2023 #35
It's a standoff. They they move to oust McCarthy the Dems get a chance to get a deal to save him ZonkerHarris Oct 2023 #36
Can you name names, please? I'm trying to compile a list. Thanks. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Oct 2023 #37
A vote to oust McCarthy will only transfer the debt he owes for his speakership from them to us DFW Oct 2023 #38
House Democrats shouldn't be in the business of saving the GQP from themselves Major Nikon Oct 2023 #40
Democrats need to be in the business of keeping a (barely) functional House going Silent3 Oct 2023 #41
Yes, wouldn't that be nice... MineralMan Oct 2023 #56
This won't finally destroy the GOP. progressoid Oct 2023 #42
Popcorn ready malaise Oct 2023 #43
You got it right on! randr Oct 2023 #44
Spot on! And thanks for this reference: TygrBright Oct 2023 #47
Hey MM...good to see you. I absolutely agree. Demsrule86 Oct 2023 #48
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