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In reply to the discussion: America doesn't need more God. It needs more atheists. [View all]PatrickforB
(15,548 posts)78. Though I am devout, I was raised to have respect for the beliefs of all others.
It is literally none of my business what anyone else believes or does not believe concerning a deity.
The problem, though is that phenomenon we call 'culture wars.'
These are generally wedge issues introduced by well-funded Libertarian think-tanks to make sure we are fighting each other so we don't notice our pockets are steadily being picked by billionaires.
You know what god this country actually worships? It is not Christ, Allah, Brahman, or whatever we name that creative force.
Nope.
It is the bronze bull-idol of Wall Street! We worship corporations, and hold shareholder profits above all else.
A bit of background on that bull:
According to Element Federal Credit Union, "For two years, SoHo artist Arturo Di Modica had been working on his bronze and stainless steel sculpture out of his studio. The artwork was created in response to the 1987 stock market crash. According to Di Modicas assistant at the time, it was a way for him to encourage everybody to realize Americas power.
One cold Thursday night, Di Modica and some friends rented a crane, loaded the massive sculpture onto a flatbed truck, drove it to the Financial District and installed it on the center line of Broad Street, near a festive 60-foot Christmas tree. The following morning, Di Modica handed out fliers explaining the significance of his artwork-turned-Christmas-gift to passersby. Hundreds came out to admire the work, but the police were less than amusedCharging Bull had been installed without a permit and without concern for the effect the statue would have on traffic and public safety. The bull was immediately impounded and hauled off to Queens. The resulting public outcry was so great that the New York City Department of Parks & Recreation reinstalled the statue a few days later in Bowling Green Park in the Financial District, where it remains on display to this day. New York City does not own the sculpture and so Charging Bull has technically been on temporary display since 1989.
The cultural impact of the sculpture has spread far and wide. Replicas of Di Monicas sculpture have found homes in Amsterdam and Shanghai. Charging Bull has helped set the scene in many TV shows and movies (Mr. Robot and The Wolf of Wall Street are a couple of notable examples). It was guarded by police during the Occupy Wall Street movement and remained barricaded for three years following the protests. Most recently, it inspired an additional artistic installationin honor of International Womens Day 2017, a bronze statue of a defiant little girl was temporarily installed facing the iconic bull (and yes, the statue of the defiant little girl did have a permit from the city...)"
One cold Thursday night, Di Modica and some friends rented a crane, loaded the massive sculpture onto a flatbed truck, drove it to the Financial District and installed it on the center line of Broad Street, near a festive 60-foot Christmas tree. The following morning, Di Modica handed out fliers explaining the significance of his artwork-turned-Christmas-gift to passersby. Hundreds came out to admire the work, but the police were less than amusedCharging Bull had been installed without a permit and without concern for the effect the statue would have on traffic and public safety. The bull was immediately impounded and hauled off to Queens. The resulting public outcry was so great that the New York City Department of Parks & Recreation reinstalled the statue a few days later in Bowling Green Park in the Financial District, where it remains on display to this day. New York City does not own the sculpture and so Charging Bull has technically been on temporary display since 1989.
The cultural impact of the sculpture has spread far and wide. Replicas of Di Monicas sculpture have found homes in Amsterdam and Shanghai. Charging Bull has helped set the scene in many TV shows and movies (Mr. Robot and The Wolf of Wall Street are a couple of notable examples). It was guarded by police during the Occupy Wall Street movement and remained barricaded for three years following the protests. Most recently, it inspired an additional artistic installationin honor of International Womens Day 2017, a bronze statue of a defiant little girl was temporarily installed facing the iconic bull (and yes, the statue of the defiant little girl did have a permit from the city...)"
So there you have it - our God! The great Wall Street Charging Bull! All hail the true god of America. Doesn't it make you want to be like Trumpy and hug the flag?

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Cuthbert Allgood
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I hear you. The fact that religious zealots make it miserable for everyone around
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#163
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