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43. If Trump Wants to Be Speaker, He'll Need a House Seat

Fri Oct 6, 2023, 11:49 AM

Oct 2023

It’s a constitutional urban legend that anyone other than a current member can lead the chamber.
By Michael Ellis and Greg Dubinsky
Oct. 5, 2023 5:23 pm ET

Paywall article from WSJ, from about 18 hours ago. I’ll copy what I can see.

After the ousting of Speaker Kevin McCarthy this week, some observers have said the House should elect a new speaker from outside its own ranks. Anyone, they say, can be elected speaker. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene even floated the notion of drafting Donald Trump as speaker and claimed in a fundraising email that the former president “just confirmed he would do it.” But a close read of the Constitution shows that the speaker must be a member of the House.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/if-trump-cant-be-speaker-you-need-a-house-seat-mccarthy-gaetz-marjorie-taylor-green-ad74fcf9

Maybe someone can get the whole article

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Is this another flaw in our Constitution? [View all] PJMcK Oct 2023 OP

Like Gerald Ford Walleye Oct 2023 #1

Not sure I understand your post - Ford was an elected member of the House Dave says Oct 2023 #16

Now do Vice President Rockefeller Effete Snob Oct 2023 #22

He was never elected President/Vice President treestar Oct 2023 #38

Yes I'm sorry I thought you meant not elected by the whole country. I misread Walleye Oct 2023 #42

yes, good point. RicROC Oct 2023 #2

One time in our nation's history has a VP not been elected to that position. WestMichRad Oct 2023 #6

Please acquaint yourself with the 25th Amendment Effete Snob Oct 2023 #9

I can sympathize with the poster's mistake... Hugin Oct 2023 #24

. Effete Snob Oct 2023 #28

! Hugin Oct 2023 #29

Oh please ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #55

I pay attention to who the VP on a ticket is... Hugin Oct 2023 #60

Not correct WestMichRad Oct 2023 #10

But they probably don't want it! lol DemocraticPatriot Oct 2023 #50

You realize that the Constitution doesn't call for the PRESIDENT to face the nation's voters? brooklynite Oct 2023 #3

PJMcK......... Upthevibe Oct 2023 #4

Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #5

How did he get to be VP? WestMichRad Oct 2023 #11

Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #14

Wait, wait: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2023 #13

He was appointed by Ford in 1974 Effete Snob Oct 2023 #15

Okay, I see. At the TIME he was appointed, he was a private citizen. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2023 #17

Immediately before he was governor of NY... Effete Snob Oct 2023 #18

I was alive at the time and not stoned continuously. mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2023 #23

"He did know his way around various government operations." Effete Snob Oct 2023 #26

Nelson Rockefeller had extensive government experience ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #56

I forgot about old Rocky Dave says Oct 2023 #19

See my username? Effete Snob Oct 2023 #20

Nabobs of negativism would have been a good name also rurallib Oct 2023 #25

Yah, if there's ever another name change cycle Effete Snob Oct 2023 #27

Well... maybe not. Scrivener7 Oct 2023 #63

Your snark is rather rude PJMcK Oct 2023 #30

Please DM for a full refund Effete Snob Oct 2023 #32

Sounds serious. Torchlight Oct 2023 #33

Not even noon... Effete Snob Oct 2023 #35

ok Torchlight Oct 2023 #36

Today is definitely not your day. Spazito Oct 2023 #47

Funny how this wasn't a "flaw" sarisataka Oct 2023 #7

Amazing inthewind21 Oct 2023 #39

What the Constitution says is dweller Oct 2023 #8

When did they decide the Pope didn't have to be Italian? Effete Snob Oct 2023 #21

Saint Peter? SomewhereInTheMiddle Oct 2023 #31

Nice Effete Snob Oct 2023 #34

Again, I point you to Rodrigo Borgia ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Oct 2023 #41

Non-members of the House have been nominated for Speaker on several occasions onenote Oct 2023 #40

If Trump Wants to Be Speaker, He'll Need a House Seat dweller Oct 2023 #43

Can you briefly summarize their argument? onenote Oct 2023 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Oct 2023 #62

I posted what I could see dweller Oct 2023 #46

I edited my previous post to add a reference to the official Guide to the Rules, Procedure and onenote Oct 2023 #48

And I'm curious where in the Constitution does it say it dweller Oct 2023 #49

I'm curious where the Constitution says the speaker must be chosen from among the members. onenote Oct 2023 #52

OK , then by that logic dweller Oct 2023 #53

And the Senate could confirm Putin as secretary of defense or as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court onenote Oct 2023 #54

Most in the line of succession haven't "faced the nation's voters". sir pball Oct 2023 #12

I don't see it as an inherant flaw. Torchlight Oct 2023 #37

It's manner in which... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #44

The line of succession is not part of the constitution Shrek Oct 2023 #51

Good grief ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #57

What about the Vice President? former9thward Oct 2023 #58

Supreme Court Justices are a far better example. n/t Hugin Oct 2023 #61

I like it, cool little technically that likely will never happen Polybius Oct 2023 #59