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elana i am

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Wed Jan 18, 2012, 01:21 AM

Jan 2012

congress put the kibosh on it and even when he was making headway, locations in the US and in other nations were refusing to take the prisoners.

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Why hasn't Barack Obama closed the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay? [View all] MinervaX Jan 2012 OP

he tried to. republicans blocked it spanone Jan 2012 #1

Republicans and Congressional Democrats frazzled Jan 2012 #7

May 2009 the Senate voted 90-6 BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #9

House vote was 282-131 to prohibit closure, with Democrats split. frazzled Jan 2012 #11

True. BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #15

You can't sign a bill blocking funds and say you're in favor of closing it Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #47

Could'a, would'a, should'a BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #58

Winner, winner, chicken dinner gratuitous Jan 2012 #83

Once again, creating an imaginary scenario in order to blame Obama. TheWraith Jan 2012 #105

So very imaginary gratuitous Jan 2012 #109

You can't pocket veto something in the middle of a congressional session. TheWraith Jan 2012 #104

Yes, a 90-6 VETO-PROOF BLOCK. Not only that.... FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #71

I totally agree. I thought everyone on the left side of politics BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #80

They do understand but choose instead to regurgitate GOP talking points. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #92

Plenty of blame for all. morningfog Jan 2012 #119

Not with a 90-6 VETO PROOF Vote. Not happening. Time to lay the blame where it should be. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #122

Both sides, I agree. Including the president who signed it. morningfog Jan 2012 #123

Because Congress is a bunch of wusses who are terrified eridani Jan 2012 #2

They were afraid for their jobs - which most lost i Nov. 2010 anyway BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #16

IOW, it's our neighbors we need to change here, not Obama n/t eridani Jan 2012 #127

Congress? Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #3

Anyone who pays attention knows Congress is why. Pirate Smile Jan 2012 #4

hey thanks for the link SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #6

Excellent link, Pirate Smile! BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #13

Thanks for the link confirming Congress blocked Pres O from closing Guantanamo. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #90

The part that really annoys me is how so many Dems in Congress Pirate Smile Jan 2012 #124

You're right. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #128

My fear is libodem Jan 2012 #5

I've wondered about that as well Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #29

Like Mohammed el Gorani, who was 14 when Americans threw him in Guantamo? sad sally Jan 2012 #110

Two options here alcibiades_mystery Jan 2012 #8

Based on my experience BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #10

This song just popped into my head SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #14

Nice song! BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #18

I'm going with... one_voice Jan 2012 #19

Hard choices, but I'm gonna pick #1. The issue has been discussed to death. Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #28

Same questions could be asked of the three special souls that rec'd this too Number23 Jan 2012 #116

Congress blocked him. MineralMan Jan 2012 #12

Jim Demint singlehandedly stopped Obama from closing Guantanamo. no_hypocrisy Jan 2012 #17

How many times does this need to be explained? phleshdef Jan 2012 #20

Amen! treestar Jan 2012 #23

Its just so silly. Its like me promising to buy my wife a new car, but then I get laid off.... phleshdef Jan 2012 #87

See Post #8, Option 1. lamp_shade Jan 2012 #21

Couldn't He Just Sign an Executive Order? zorahopkins Jan 2012 #22

Where will he get the funds? SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #24

Another Executive Order zorahopkins Jan 2012 #26

Sure he could I guess if you want the Executive to have that much power SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #40

The president does not have the power polmaven Jan 2012 #50

Eggs-actly! Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #96

Executive Orders are not a method for conferring all power on one branch of the government treestar Jan 2012 #25

I Get That zorahopkins Jan 2012 #27

He did issue an EO to have it closed Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #30

He Cannot Appropriate Money, BUT zorahopkins Jan 2012 #36

It sounds like he and Holder are still trying to find a workaround Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #41

How Long Do We Wait For Justice? zorahopkins Jan 2012 #43

You talk about 'justice' muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #44

Do The Right Thing zorahopkins Jan 2012 #46

He needed special appropriation for the new Gitmo North facility TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #39

If he says he wants to close Gitmo and has the power to do it (but hasn't) Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #45

He doesn't have the power now, except on a Constitutional basis that he is hard pressed TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #49

It was part of a defense spending bill I believe Proud Liberal Dem Jan 2012 #51

He didn't have veto it or even allow the issue to come to a vote before it was too late to have TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #57

Some on this thread are asserting BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #62

Question? Were you this passionate in 2010, when we were getting our asses handed to us by the TP? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #33

Because, doncha know, the EO is the magic wand! treestar Jan 2012 #37

It's About Justice zorahopkins Jan 2012 #42

"He has the tools". You haven't yet convinced me, or is this about "symbolism"? Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #81

Kindly NAME these tools DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #120

I don't see how it is Congress' job to dictate prisoner assignments, to determinine who to prosecute TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #52

Simple. Congress has the power of the purse. Exactly as the founding fathers intended. stevenleser Jan 2012 #63

Show me the history of appropriations for individual transfers and facility assignments. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #70

LOL, you really think I am going to do that research to make you happy when the constitutional basis stevenleser Jan 2012 #73

No, I want you to examine your interpretation in any broad real world application TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #84

Apparently more complex than that treestar Jan 2012 #35

He has no serious plans to close it. woo me with science Jan 2012 #67

Does he have the ability to order a military unit to move? JackRiddler Jan 2012 #102

Because Congress blocked it surfdog Jan 2012 #31

For six months it was because Obama wanted to thread the political needle TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #32

Thanks for giving it straight. Capitalocracy Jan 2012 #48

Exactly. Obama could have closed it overnight, any time, for four months. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #74

Why post this and not stick around? n/t one_voice Jan 2012 #34

Snarky, content-free response. nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #54

Since that is in fact what the OP is, its a perfect response. nt stevenleser Jan 2012 #65

.... one_voice Jan 2012 #72

I heard that Fidel and Boehner decided to turn it into a golf resort flamingdem Jan 2012 #38

Haven't been paying attention much, have you? MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #53

Snarky, content-free response. nt woo me with science Jan 2012 #55

The content you and the OP are seeking is available all over the internet. MilesColtrane Jan 2012 #59

Yes, like extending the Patriot Act and signing NDAA. woo me with science Jan 2012 #69

A newbie who is going to help elighten us. grantcart Jan 2012 #108

there's a lot of shit there to be packed up, and he hasn't had much free time........ piratefish08 Jan 2012 #56

No reason why he can't, because he can. His supreme military authority and the discretionary ... T S Justly Jan 2012 #60

"Saying he wants to in public is designed to get ill-informed progressives and liberals to support" SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #64

Strict binary thinking causes you to assume motives. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #77

Exactly my point lol SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #79

Not comparable. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #89

Yabut, Jack . . . Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #93

Are you saying the president can't order the moving of a military JackRiddler Jan 2012 #101

No, what's missing here is the money to pay for the move. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #103

Bullshit. JackRiddler Jan 2012 #106

Great reply, Jack. Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #118

"Therefore there must be reasons he didn't and doesn't do it." SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #94

kindly name the tool he has DonCoquixote Jan 2012 #121

. dionysus Jan 2012 #117

Republicans are blocking him! HE HAS NOT CHOSEN TO EMBRACE Welibs Jan 2012 #61

DUers answered your question. I'm surprised you didn't know that. Or did you? nt gateley Jan 2012 #66

He has yet to figure out how to keep a Guantanamo-style prison hughee99 Jan 2012 #68

So people like you can find something to post about for the next 11 months to help out Mittens. Sheepshank Jan 2012 #75

"You're either with us or against us." JackRiddler Jan 2012 #78

Nope not at all. just pointing out the idiocy Sheepshank Jan 2012 #125

Congress won't give him the money to do it. End of story. librechik Jan 2012 #76

If Congess won't close Gitmo I say the Prez should just free them Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #82

He signed similar restrictions on his branch there too. TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #86

Because it would be hard to do... joeybee12 Jan 2012 #85

I give him a lot of shit. But on this, as far as I can tell. He was stabbed in the back by the other Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2012 #88

Good picture! Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #97

If that's not a serial killer photo. I don't know what is........ I kid I kid. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 2012 #98

He signed the exectutive order to do so TODAY. ingac70 Jan 2012 #91

That article is from January 2009. * 2009 * n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #111

Because Congress won't allow him to. Rex Jan 2012 #95

Because having torture camps is in line with conservative objectives just1voice Jan 2012 #99

Not true SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #100

Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #113

It does address it, if you will read it SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #115

congress nt arely staircase Jan 2012 #107

Read all the updates regardng GITMO on the link below from the bottom up... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #112

Paid trolls do better than this. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #114

2 reasons elana i am Jan 2012 #126