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In reply to the discussion: 4th graders who flunk reading have faces marked [View all]GiaGiovanni
(1,247 posts)48. Actually, this teacher's blog has some student reading videos that are anything but shaming
http://summerlarsendes.blogspot.com/p/farmer-rt-group-1.html
Here's what I think happened. This teacher seems very student centered. A student centered classroom requires that students make many of their own decisions as a class, including decisions about incentivizing learning. The students themselves (according to the AP article) chose the disincentive of writing marker on children's faces. A student centered classroom might in fact go with the student's own idea of an appropriate punishment to see what happens and to talk about it later. I heartily agree that this particular exercise was cruel, and something to be expected of 4th graders whose moral systems are still developing. However, some student centered educational methodologies require going along with such decisions, provided they are not truly dangerous.
You might argue that the exercise was psychologically damaging to students, but remember, there have been lots of educational "experiments" in the past 30 years, such as the discrimination game described in the documentary A Class Divided. Under the guise of education, such psychological experiments certainly affect children, and not only in a good way. One Florida school, for example, decided to play a "Holocaust Game" in which certain random students were chosen to be Jews for a day. There were many children traumatized.
Here's what I think happened. This teacher seems very student centered. A student centered classroom requires that students make many of their own decisions as a class, including decisions about incentivizing learning. The students themselves (according to the AP article) chose the disincentive of writing marker on children's faces. A student centered classroom might in fact go with the student's own idea of an appropriate punishment to see what happens and to talk about it later. I heartily agree that this particular exercise was cruel, and something to be expected of 4th graders whose moral systems are still developing. However, some student centered educational methodologies require going along with such decisions, provided they are not truly dangerous.
You might argue that the exercise was psychologically damaging to students, but remember, there have been lots of educational "experiments" in the past 30 years, such as the discrimination game described in the documentary A Class Divided. Under the guise of education, such psychological experiments certainly affect children, and not only in a good way. One Florida school, for example, decided to play a "Holocaust Game" in which certain random students were chosen to be Jews for a day. There were many children traumatized.
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But to a child--missing recess is very concrete and almost measurable to them...
CoffeeCat
Nov 2012
#14
I was a nerd too. Played in the chess club. Winners and losers. Classrooms are not sports arenas (nt
The Straight Story
Nov 2012
#25
So you were successful in getting rid of your self-esteem sometime during high school?
DisgustipatedinCA
Nov 2012
#43
If you fire her, you need to fire every teacher using peer approaches in the classroom because
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#94
Actually, this teacher's blog has some student reading videos that are anything but shaming
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#48
Did you read the blog? She's not a horrible person, and the peer approach requires follow through
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#58
The "punishment" was apparently the idea of the students themselves (a stupid one admittedly)
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#35
My children went to a student-centered alternative school, and nothing like this was done.
yardwork
Nov 2012
#83
Teacher needs to write the meaning of STIGMA on her blackboard 1000 times
HereSince1628
Nov 2012
#54
The kids themselves chose the punishment, and some student-centered approaches
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#73
Thanks for a civilized response. A wrongheaded philosophy, supported by research and
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#91
I am a HUGE advocate of home schooling, especially considering current education "theory" at
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#71
The teacher is NOT a horrible person or even an abusive one. It's a peer teaching methodology that
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#70
The teacher is an adult. She has an obligation to keep kids safe. She failed.
proud2BlibKansan
Nov 2012
#74
Safe, yes. But this has EVERYTHING to do with teaching philosophy coming out of universities
GiaGiovanni
Nov 2012
#78
Teaches other kids that violating someone else's physical boundaries is acceptable
Hekate
Nov 2012
#79
My first grade teacher used to pin failed tests to our shirts & force us to keep them there all day
Bad_Ronald
Nov 2012
#84
Fire her. None of that sit in a room for a year and get paid bullshit. nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Nov 2012
#95