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Whoops! That's ALSO A War Crime [View all] T_A Oct 2023 OP

They put Iran on the Women's Human Rights council Marius25 Oct 2023 #1

Actually T_A Oct 2023 #7

Cool story. The UN is worthless and has no power. Marius25 Oct 2023 #8

Quite Predictable Response T_A Oct 2023 #12

Yes it is... PCIntern Oct 2023 #16

It's Merely Unreality T_A Oct 2023 #18

Parsed as, "It's merely, uh, reality." n/t Igel Oct 2023 #179

The very nature and structure of the UN limits it and can leave its committees sometimes open to hlthe2b Oct 2023 #26

The problem is, many times they have no teeth. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #57

It was never meant to be a judicary equivalent. That is the World Court that the US declined to hlthe2b Oct 2023 #63

Good place to start. KS Toronado Oct 2023 #100

Veto Power AloeVera Oct 2023 #156

Exactly. Goddessartist Oct 2023 #112

No one cares about the UN SCantiGOP Oct 2023 #80

Think again about why folks might be skeptical when the "UN" source isn't named. lapucelle Oct 2023 #121

It Was Named T_A Oct 2023 #132

That's quite specific as to title, I guess. Igel Oct 2023 #180

Oppressive, theocratic regimes seem to be the problem. n/t AntiFascist Oct 2023 #155

Irrelevant. You should be able to judge the criminality of this action Redleg Oct 2023 #177

Yes, indeed hlthe2b Oct 2023 #20

Post removed Post removed Oct 2023 #30

**** Hekate Oct 2023 #37

Think again why there are no sources and not even a name for the "UN" expert. lapucelle Oct 2023 #122

Already Addressed T_A Oct 2023 #135

You said there was no link. Think again and maybe you can recall a name. lapucelle Oct 2023 #138

Why Would I Need To Recall A Name? T_A Oct 2023 #145

That was good advice. I did look it up. It's Francesca Albanese. lapucelle Oct 2023 #148

Except T_A Oct 2023 #159

The name you can't provide is Francesca Albanese. She was interviewed on last week. lapucelle Oct 2023 #160

BZZZT! T_A Oct 2023 #161

Sorry, "Unnamed guy on unlinked show said something" is simply not good enough. lapucelle Oct 2023 #162

Except T_A Oct 2023 #164

I don't use translators when I'm writing posts. lapucelle Oct 2023 #165

Me Neither T_A Oct 2023 #166

You said "translates". N/T lapucelle Oct 2023 #168

But polysemy. Igel Oct 2023 #182

Opravdu. Igel Oct 2023 #181

Yep. Goddessartist Oct 2023 #45

You know who doesn't care about the UN? AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #11

+1 spot on! Emile Oct 2023 #14

Hamas? Hezbo? Mosby Oct 2023 #47

They only do what the people who finance them want them to do. Kind of like our R's in congress. LiberalArkie Oct 2023 #51

Islamic extremism is driven by ideology Mosby Oct 2023 #53

maybe when 1 or 2 people do something, but when thousands of rockets worth million start LiberalArkie Oct 2023 #54

I'm with LiberalArkie on this one. Yes, Iran ruled by the Ayatollahs is definitely a PatrickforB Oct 2023 #151

This reads like a "bothsides" argument Bucky Oct 2023 #190

What's wrong is wrong no matter who's doing it AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #193

What ever one thinks about the UN Disaffected Oct 2023 #32

Yes, of course it is. When fighting an enemy, there is wnylib Oct 2023 #52

Yes, thus it has been and Disaffected Oct 2023 #55

No Need For Contention T_A Oct 2023 #62

Trump, Boebert, Gaetz agree on spite towards the UN quakerboy Oct 2023 #104

Too many here love to BlueMTexpat Oct 2023 #107

If for nothing else UNICEF and other health, medical care, food etc. it is well JohnSJ Oct 2023 #152

This is a hell of a reply! 🔥🔥🔥 AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #191

And, yet claudette Oct 2023 #2

I don't think the UN can be taken seriously. Marius25 Oct 2023 #5

Well, that is and has long been the RW and Trump stance on the UN. Interesting that you would agree hlthe2b Oct 2023 #22

Yep. Goddessartist Oct 2023 #46

Interesting indeed nt redqueen Oct 2023 #64

I'm not inthewind21 Oct 2023 #75

Definitely MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #65

yes, interesting indeed Celerity Oct 2023 #103

indeed. solid point. -(nt)- stopdiggin Oct 2023 #137

No, it's just abject ignorance of the law. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #27

+1 treestar Oct 2023 #125

Welcome to our DU family. niyad Oct 2023 #3

Like any family we occassionally have food fights housecat Oct 2023 #34

just noticed post counts are not in the posts now treestar Oct 2023 #128

There's A Way To See Those ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #143

Welcome home T_A... MiHale Oct 2023 #4

* T_A Oct 2023 #6

A link would add greater credibility. Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #9

BBC Radio T_A Oct 2023 #13

That's not very helpful. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #28

"Their site may have something" does not equal a link. Just sayin' Hekate Oct 2023 #68

BBC Radio Is LIVE Audio T_A Oct 2023 #70

As it happens I have developed a few work-arounds which I will be happy to share with you Hekate Oct 2023 #73

You're Confused T_A Oct 2023 #83

I am not at all confused. I've been here over 20 years, and I learned to cite sources decades before Hekate Oct 2023 #84

That's Not A Link T_A Oct 2023 #87

As we used to say when I was a freshman in college: "Cite Your Sources." Hekate Oct 2023 #90

I Did T_A Oct 2023 #93

There is a difference between citing and eluding to. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #115

Think again if you expect folks to accept the claims lapucelle Oct 2023 #123

Already Addressed T_A Oct 2023 #136

Think again. Maybe you can recall her name. lapucelle Oct 2023 #141

Think again. Maybe you can recall her name. lapucelle Oct 2023 #140

It's not impossible to obtain the link. lapucelle Oct 2023 #169

Wrong Program T_A Oct 2023 #170

You posted that it was "impossible to obtain a link". Think again. lapucelle Oct 2023 #171

NO T_A Oct 2023 #173

I just posted one. Sorry, but "Some guy on a show I can't name said something." lapucelle Oct 2023 #175

NO T_A Oct 2023 #176

Sorry, "Some guy on some program said something" is even worse than this. lapucelle Oct 2023 #178

i dont think israel gives a damn what the UN says moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #10

War crimes don't give a damn what anyone thinks...it's still a crime, by clear legal definition... Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #97

take it up with the hague after israel finishes destroying hamas moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #109

And after Hamas is destroyed, there'll be another terrorist organization born. czarjak Oct 2023 #117

STOP WITH THE WHATABOUTISM Skittles Oct 2023 #158

First, Ukraine is not a terrorist organization, and it doesn't target civilians. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #113

Gaza is not a nation, can't declare war, that's a Western fiction...and 2 million people living Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #118

Gaza is a territorial unit of statutory Palestine, which is a Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #120

Try suing PG&E for a power outage. usonian Oct 2023 #15

And this is stupid. NutmegYankee Oct 2023 #17

US doesn't like it when others use that tactic. David__77 Oct 2023 #59

You *might* want to consider MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #66

Food and water? Most sieges of towns and cities had innocent families in the middle. NutmegYankee Oct 2023 #71

It was never necessary to shut down Progressive dog Oct 2023 #89

Literally advocating for a war crime against a city of 2 million...regressing to the Stone Age wars? Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #119

An enemy would be someone you don't have control over like that. treestar Oct 2023 #124

By this logic sarisataka Oct 2023 #19

Surrounding Berlin was a war crime? speak easy Oct 2023 #35

Apparently sarisataka Oct 2023 #43

You mean the Palestinians after all these years didn't build any infrastructure Historic NY Oct 2023 #21

They're Living Under T_A Oct 2023 #61

Israel is not occupying Gaza Mossfern Oct 2023 #172

The UN is often ignored LeftInTX Oct 2023 #23

The accusations against Bush went nowhere because . . . markpkessinger Oct 2023 #69

Been there. Done that with Israel LeftInTX Oct 2023 #78

Why do you think 1/2 the population are children? Their parents and grandparents have already been onecaliberal Oct 2023 #24

Nonsense speak easy Oct 2023 #38

By who hamas? Certainly not Israel EX500rider Oct 2023 #42

Seems like I would have read about THAT TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #129

yeah expect crickets as a reply EX500rider Oct 2023 #133

In contested areas, there can be a race to have more children than the other guys meadowlander Oct 2023 #67

Intelligently stated Hekate Oct 2023 #74

Yup jfz9580m Oct 2023 #105

that's what the Christian right tries to do too treestar Oct 2023 #134

So now we are just making stuff up? tritsofme Oct 2023 #77

That is not true. Progressive dog Oct 2023 #92

There have no doubt been a disproportionate amount of Palestinians uponit7771 Oct 2023 #94

If I had a nickel for every time a UN humanitarian was wromg. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #25

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2023 #29

Please educate sarisataka Oct 2023 #31

Yes but who is going to punish Israel? IronLionZion Oct 2023 #33

Nobody will punish Israel for a misinformed statement from a UN official Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #39

I would like to see the source and the quote ripcord Oct 2023 #56

so would I, but it's not forthcoming. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #60

It might be the woman called out by our UN ambassador for her history of anti-Semitism, lapucelle Oct 2023 #131

That's the one. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #149

"The name was in a previous adjacent thread at the time." lapucelle Oct 2023 #150

and Bibi is trying to control the courts to protect his criiminal rightwing ass. Israel is divided housecat Oct 2023 #40

Israel should ignore the U.N. because it is anti Israel ripcord Oct 2023 #36

Israel IS ignoring doing war crimes, UN is just the messenger...but then again a Eric and israel Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #98

Didn't it have a hand in creating the current state? treestar Oct 2023 #144

I don't think the UN is a honest broker here. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #41

You Don't Need To Believe The U.N. Is An "Honest Broker" T_A Oct 2023 #88

It's the interpretations of them. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #95

How can people who initiate collective punishment have an argument in this context, they should stop uponit7771 Oct 2023 #106

No. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #116

Source? ripcord Oct 2023 #44

It is a crime against humanity. The Israeli Def Minister called Palestinians "human animals" Goddessartist Oct 2023 #48

Still can't wrap my brain around that leftstreet Oct 2023 #49

Dehumanization, and eradication. Goddessartist Oct 2023 #72

Is anyone surprised redqueen Oct 2023 #82

Not surprised at all. Goddessartist Oct 2023 #108

Yea. Cant walk back genocidal talk followed by...genocide. Alexander Of Assyria Oct 2023 #99

Exactly. Goddessartist Oct 2023 #111

Welcome to DU, T_A! calimary Oct 2023 #50

So your response is snark? milestogo Oct 2023 #58

Nobody gives a damn about the UN Calculating Oct 2023 #76

Welcome to DU orangecrush Oct 2023 #79

Did we supply food and energy to the Germans and Japanese populations? former9thward Oct 2023 #81

We certainly did -- after surrender Hekate Oct 2023 #85

No one in this war has surrendered. former9thward Oct 2023 #86

Right. I hope the OP gets that. Hekate Oct 2023 #91

We did not have occupational power over those treestar Oct 2023 #153

No. former9thward Oct 2023 #157

seems more like 911 than those treestar Oct 2023 #187

Did the UN representative cited to a provision of the Geneva Convention or Hague Protocol? TomSlick Oct 2023 #96

Irrelevant. Both sides' war crimes are irrelevant now... albacore Oct 2023 #101

The UN is only relevant when... Xolodno Oct 2023 #102

That's probably true. Captain Stern Oct 2023 #110

It's not surprising they have overreacted Bucky Oct 2023 #114

Is there a link to a this? TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #126

For Me T_A Oct 2023 #139

Was it BBC stating this or a UN rep? TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #142

U.N. Rep T_A Oct 2023 #146

It might have been the Democracy Now! interview with Francesca Albanese. lapucelle Oct 2023 #154

NO WATER FOR YOU!!!! Soup Nazi on Seinfeld enid602 Oct 2023 #127

they've said this from the very beginning stopdiggin Oct 2023 #130

I'm suing PG&E usonian Oct 2023 #147

NOPE. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #163

Here is MY question-- how WAS Israel supposed to respond to this awful attack??? LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #167

Anything that harms civilians is war crime. Starving them is just as bad as shooting them. Martin68 Oct 2023 #174

Yeah that's just not true EX500rider Oct 2023 #183

Well, duh. But when civilians die because they were not allowed to get water, food or medical treatment, that is a war crime. Martin68 Oct 2023 #184

Is Israel allowing relief supplies across the Egyptian crossing now, yes EX500rider Oct 2023 #185

Show me one war in which either combatant had the power to completely cut off all water, power, and Martin68 Oct 2023 #188

The US imposed a complete naval blockade on Japan in WWII EX500rider Oct 2023 #194

You seem to be willfully ignoring the obvious. Japan had food and water no matter who blockaded them. Martin68 Oct 2023 #196

No they did not EX500rider Oct 2023 #199

Food Insecurity in Japan EX500rider Oct 2023 #201

Food insecurity at a the time was a product of the wartime effort that drafted farmers to fight the war, Martin68 Oct 2023 #202

Japan has to import food, they can not grow enough for their population EX500rider Oct 2023 #203

"Anything that harms civilians is war crime." EX500rider Oct 2023 #186

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Why would I agree that is not true? I just cited the Martin68 Oct 2023 #189

Perhaps SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #192

Post 147 of yours EX500rider Oct 2023 #195

"According to Section 6(1)(b)(xxv), "ntentionally using starvation of civilians as a method of warfare by depriving them of Martin68 Oct 2023 #197

"willfully impeding relief supplies" is not the same as you have to supply them EX500rider Oct 2023 #200

That is simply not true. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #198