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Hekate

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34. Read the book when I was young
Fri Nov 16, 2012, 09:06 PM
Nov 2012

When I was young I really wanted to become Catholic (my grandma was, and I adored her) -- loved the candles and rituals and ancient certainty. But my mother, who was as ex-Catholic as you can be (none of this "lapsing" stuff for her) had done her work too well: I thought for myself, and even at 14 I was thinking all the time.

Back to the book. It was one of several novels I read in jr hi and hi school that were set in the late 19th and early-20th centuries, and which touched on where you would go to have your baby, if you went to a hospital. I was baffled by the refrain: "Oh no, don't send your wife/daughter/sister to the Catholic hospital! If she has trouble delivering they won't try to save her -- they'll let her die while they try to save the baby! You be sure to send her to the Protestant hospital!"

As I say, I was young, and this baffled me. My own mother had almost died a couple of times while miscarrying, and I knew it. WTF?

Then I read "The Cardinal," and there it was: If everything goes wrong you let the mother die, because she's already had her chance to try to save her soul, and you need to focus on the new soul being born no matter what.

I'm waaaaaay older now, and long ago stopped hoping The Church would change. And I'm very glad my ancestors saw fit to leave Ireland, although I enjoyed my two folk-music oriented tours there.

I think the women stick around the Roman Catholic Church for the Virgin Mary, who is more human than the men who run the institution.

As for me, contemplating the Triple Goddess gives one a whole different perspective, and a whole different balance.

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India is in an uproar about her death also Liberal_in_LA Nov 2012 #1
good. RainDog Nov 2012 #11
This makes me sick. loudsue Nov 2012 #2
This makes me sick. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #8
AAAaaaaakkkkkkk! You should WARN people before you do that!! loudsue Nov 2012 #39
The "false prophet" Dawson Leery Nov 2012 #40
No. ChairmanAgnostic Nov 2012 #3
I hope you're right RainDog Nov 2012 #12
The church is a deadly parasite. UnrepentantLiberal Nov 2012 #16
K&R smirkymonkey Nov 2012 #4
I too believe it may be a unifying thing. The Irish seem to ready to overthrow the Catholic church's riderinthestorm Nov 2012 #5
Divide Ireland? More than it is already? Demeter Nov 2012 #6
I hope it does something InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #7
In the early 2000s the gov't was releasing PSAs the racism was so bad. ceile Nov 2012 #23
interesting. InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #25
sounds right. ceile Nov 2012 #31
Well, their New World off-spring can be mighty racist! (Cf., Boston, School Busing.) WinkyDink Nov 2012 #24
Religion in public policy is poison catbyte Nov 2012 #9
I'm a white liberal Christian living liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #28
I hear you. It's a disgrace. And of top of what they did to us, the pedophile priests catbyte Nov 2012 #36
Fucking barbaric. East Coast Pirate Nov 2012 #10
My question is this: why would any woman associate with this religion? RainDog Nov 2012 #13
Supposedly Patriarchy doesn't exist or isn't a problem anymore Hydra Nov 2012 #20
Try asking that question of every Christian sect, not to mention Judaism, Islam, etc. WinkyDink Nov 2012 #22
well, yes. RainDog Nov 2012 #27
Now wait a minute, I'm a progressive Christian, and I can tell you liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #30
This thread is about anti-abortion christians RainDog Nov 2012 #32
Well, excuse me, but I was replying liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #33
LOL. RainDog Nov 2012 #35
I honestly don't know, except that I think it may have to do with liberalhistorian Nov 2012 #29
Coming soon to a United States near you... ProfessionalLeftist Nov 2012 #14
Ireland??? You must be talking about Gilead. (NT) Heywood J Nov 2012 #15
Goes to show the Roman Catholic Church is as much of a creepy cult as the Mormon Church. backscatter712 Nov 2012 #17
As a former Catholic Hydra Nov 2012 #19
I was in traveling in Ireland (first time visitor) when this happened LeftinOH Nov 2012 #18
Did anyone read the comments? ceile Nov 2012 #21
There was a movie made by Otto Preminger on this subject Beringia Nov 2012 #26
Read the book when I was young Hekate Nov 2012 #34
I think for myself too Beringia Nov 2012 #37
how sad njlibguy_19656mm Nov 2012 #38
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