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Sympthsical

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62. I am also very struck

Wed Oct 11, 2023, 03:18 PM

Oct 2023

By how so many of the "Everything's Nazis!" brigade are suddenly all, "You have to understand . . ." when actual decapitated babies are part of the conversation.

Like, what?

I get that a lot of conversations and arguments we have in social media tend to be ridiculous hyperbole that washes away at even cursory scrutiny. The realm of social media just isn't a very serious place. Given.

But that dime-turn, when actual atrocities are in motion, and suddenly moral condemnation can't be mustered and what is true is highly situational.

It feels like inconsequential ideological play has been given more significance than real world productivity.

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Harvard student groups issued an anti-Israel statement. CEOs want them blacklisted. [View all] Sympthsical Oct 2023 OP

Well, they don't want to hurt their earning potential for something Wingus Dingus Oct 2023 #1

Not just young people. DFW Oct 2023 #5

Yes. I wonder if those Senators look back now and Wingus Dingus Oct 2023 #10

I'm guessing "not really" brooklynite Oct 2023 #13

Privately, though--not in a political benefit sense. Wingus Dingus Oct 2023 #16

Responding to sexual harassment looks "dumb" today? brooklynite Oct 2023 #25

I think railroading Al Franken out of the Senate looks dumb today, yes. Wingus Dingus Oct 2023 #29

You're entitled to think that. I'm saying that it's not keeping the Democratic Senators up at night brooklynite Oct 2023 #32

Maybe it should though. Maybe jumping on a bandwagon Wingus Dingus Oct 2023 #37

Doesn't keep me up at night either. brooklynite Oct 2023 #39

The personal connection did make a difference to me, no two ways about it. DFW Oct 2023 #70

On that point, I agree totally. DFW Oct 2023 #69

Believing an accusation of sexual hararassment where there was none does inded look dumb DFW Oct 2023 #68

Dumb and mean DFW Oct 2023 #66

We don't have a ton of rock stars anymore, but he was becoming Wingus Dingus Oct 2023 #73

Of all things, Al was never looking for rock star status DFW Oct 2023 #77

I'm sure some do DFW Oct 2023 #64

Good news. This will be a valuable life lesson for these young folks. tritsofme Oct 2023 #2

Awwwww inthewind21 Oct 2023 #3

lol, quick look at Ackman on OpenSecrets shows he gives exclusively to Democratic candidates tritsofme Oct 2023 #6

How dare you. nycbos Oct 2023 #12

Oops! emulatorloo Oct 2023 #21

When you make an unequivocal statement that this is all Israel's fault, which tacitly gives a green JohnSJ Oct 2023 #4

Wait. They signed their names to a statement. That means they publicly marybourg Oct 2023 #11

At least one of them backtracked and said they didn't read it before signing. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #19

An article I saw was a student reporting that the statement had been issued by group leaders petronius Oct 2023 #61

That in itself is something that should be known. Igel Oct 2023 #78

During the McCarthy period, people in colleges signed papers aligning them with the communist party, JohnSJ Oct 2023 #20

Well, we haven't started having hearings yet, so any of these guys marybourg Oct 2023 #23

Do you think an prospective employer should ask the applicant if they are registered Democrats or JohnSJ Oct 2023 #34

No, certainly not. But I also don't support secret manifestos. marybourg Oct 2023 #44

The question is does it effect their qualifications or how they do the job? Also, people sign JohnSJ Oct 2023 #52

That may be your question. marybourg Oct 2023 #59

Of course, and I feel the same way toward you. JohnSJ Oct 2023 #60

Long ago I received the following advice: cloudbase Oct 2023 #56

Sorry, but no SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #72

This is ridiculous redqueen Oct 2023 #7

People are frequently happy about firings due to opinion Sympthsical Oct 2023 #9

Seriously. Every random "bike-grabbing, bird-watcher-abusing, student-taunting Karen" yardwork Oct 2023 #33

The sound of the inevitable tide arriving upon shore Sympthsical Oct 2023 #45

I'm struck by the difference in emotionalism. yardwork Oct 2023 #55

I am also very struck Sympthsical Oct 2023 #62

There's some ideological pressure at play I think. yardwork Oct 2023 #67

Do you feel the same way about people who make racist, homophobic, or misogynic statements ? MichMan Oct 2023 #14

What is ridiculous about it? I certainly wouldn't want to employ such people. tritsofme Oct 2023 #15

Not ridiculous at all. People who support Islamic terrorism should never be able to find a job Marius25 Oct 2023 #18

This remind me of things that happened during the McCarthy era JohnSJ Oct 2023 #22

It seems little different than someone facing consequences for signing a pro-KKK letter tritsofme Oct 2023 #31

It is a slippery slope, especially in this political climate. I can see it easily leading to JohnSJ Oct 2023 #36

It's just basic FAFO BannonsLiver Oct 2023 #30

Nah, I'm good with it. Jedi Guy Oct 2023 #74

CEOs are allowed to have opinions just like college students ripcord Oct 2023 #79

I think a prospective employer has every right to know if an applicant supported the attack DFW Oct 2023 #8

Should those employer's also know if they were or ever have been a member of the communist party? JohnSJ Oct 2023 #27

Im not seeing the parallel, actually. yardwork Oct 2023 #41

You just gave rebutted your own argument by pointing out that in some places it is legal to JohnSJ Oct 2023 #46

I think it's quite hypocritical to drag out the "McCarthy!!!" comparisons now. yardwork Oct 2023 #49

You want to get personal and call me a hypocrite, and accuse me of emotionalism, as far as I am JohnSJ Oct 2023 #54

The communist party didn't celebrate for joy when massacres of unarmed concert goers took place. DFW Oct 2023 #71

Good. I hope every company is taking notice and bans them all from being employed Marius25 Oct 2023 #17

GFY You Corporate Tools Oneironaut Oct 2023 #24

No objection to free speech; no objection to revealing who's making the speech. brooklynite Oct 2023 #28

I absolutely disagree - especially if it's for a hot button issue. Oneironaut Oct 2023 #35

I think it's the poor judgment being shown that is the issue. yardwork Oct 2023 #48

Do you have a problem if the prospective employer asks for you political party affiliation, JohnSJ Oct 2023 #40

No, I don't. brooklynite Oct 2023 #47

As you know, the 1st amendment only only applies to the government supressing speech. emulatorloo Oct 2023 #38

Definitely. However, it becomes questionable if it's a collaboration of CEOs of major companies Oneironaut Oct 2023 #42

Sorry, I don't see the analogy. How is being a Hamas apologist the same as criticizing Amazon? emulatorloo Oct 2023 #51

It is Joe McCarthy by any other name JohnSJ Oct 2023 #43

Ackman is of Ashkenazi Jewish descent. Does not surprise me he doesn't want to hire Hamas emulatorloo Oct 2023 #57

I am Jewish, and a supporter of Israel, and I see directly see the connection between McCarthy and JohnSJ Oct 2023 #58

We disagree but as always emulatorloo Oct 2023 #63

...................... JohnSJ Oct 2023 #65

"Consequence culture" Sympthsical Oct 2023 #50

This isn't a free speech issue n/t SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #75

If McCarthy had been rooting out antisemites from industry, he'd be a hero. mathematic Oct 2023 #76

This will turn out to be -5 students who put these organizations' names on this letter. yardwork Oct 2023 #26

What happened at UC Berkeley might be illustrative Sympthsical Oct 2023 #53