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Xolodno

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13. That's an over simplification.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 06:19 PM
Oct 2023

And bit of an error.

1. The USA, Britan, France, etc. allies were not in the Battle of Berlin. Only the Soviet Union. The other allies took control of predetermined areas of administration after the Russians conquered Berlin.

2. The Nazi's showed no mercy towards those of Slavic decent, to them, they were just one step above Jews and should be enslaved (even today there is a bit ethnic racism against them as they are considered intermingled with Mongols).

3. Soldiers in the Red Army would liberate their villages, homes, etc. as they moved towards Germany and discover, mass graves, villages completely wiped out, Jewish extermination camps, etc.

4. Some Soviet Generals did ask their troops not to mass murder, rape, etc. civilians, but were under no illusion they could stop it, too many wanted revenge, and what they did still didn't reach up to the level what the Nazi's did to them.

5. A lot of those Civilians in Berlin were armed as they were given orders to fight to the last man, woman and child...and a number did. Children were given anti tank grenades and told to hide until a Soviet tank came by, run, activate it under the tank and hide. Many Nazi's told them that they would shoot them if they abandoned their positions.

6. And finally, a lot of Nazi officers fled out of Germany using their influence and wealth. Others surrendered to the western allies, all the while knowing the slaughter their populace would go through due to the orders they gave them.

You can't use that comparison.

Yes... PCIntern Oct 2023 #1
Understood, but were there people that claimed "both sides are wrong"? nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #2
Not really sure what you are looking for, marybourg Oct 2023 #9
Uhhhm, no getagrip_already Oct 2023 #3
Wanting a war to be over is a key point Shermann Oct 2023 #11
Bullcrap PCIntern Oct 2023 #19
Bs.... getagrip_already Oct 2023 #25
There was a Nazi Bund, as it was called, marybourg Oct 2023 #10
Not During The War ProfessorGAC Oct 2023 #18
Completely different situation. WarGamer Oct 2023 #4
"A more primitive time". marybourg Oct 2023 #6
Joe Biden is from a more primitive time. LexVegas Oct 2023 #7
👍👍👍nt Raine Oct 2023 #24
It was a FAR more primitive time for people like me (mixed race black female, out lesbian). Celerity Oct 2023 #27
Yes. You're right. But "unenlightened" might be a better term than primitive. marybourg Oct 2023 #30
fair enough but primitive still has its uses Celerity Oct 2023 #31
Funny. Thanks for the few moments of distraction. marybourg Oct 2023 #32
It was actually to win the war SickOfTheOnePct Oct 2023 #12
The majority of Germans who were white christians were no innocents ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #20
A broad statement based on bias Redleg Oct 2023 #22
Palestinians are probably well aware of what Hamas does. Kaleva Oct 2023 #28
The bombing of civilian areas vs. industrial was not universally agreed upon by Allies bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #5
The British favored night bombing because it was safer for their aircrew. The Americans favored Wonder Why Oct 2023 #15
People have excusing Palestinian terror tactics for decades ripcord Oct 2023 #8
That's an over simplification. Xolodno Oct 2023 #13
It's just fake wonderin'. n/t demmiblue Oct 2023 #14
And Germany did not have a history as a colonised state of the Allies. meadowlander Oct 2023 #21
About 20 thousand French civilians were killed by the Allies... Kaleva Oct 2023 #26
And Genghis Khan reversed global temperature trends... Xolodno Oct 2023 #29
Or the fire bombing of Tokyo edhopper Oct 2023 #16
Why not nuke 'em all then? Redleg Oct 2023 #17
I don't think it's a good idea to compare the two ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #23
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