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Old Crank

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33. The doom spiral is in action

Sun Oct 15, 2023, 03:31 PM

Oct 2023

We may not like it but we can't change course unless we make imediate massive changes. Right Now!
No personal cars/truck sold unless they get over 50 mpg. 70 mpg in 5 years.
Cut two car households perhaps by limiting family miles driven.
Drive up the gas tax especially in cheap fuel states.
No added fees to install solar/wind at your home.
Ban all new gas or heating oil in houses and provide incentives for home owners to switch to electric.
No new drilling for gas or oil.
We have to slash emmisions.

Since Al Gore said we needed to do something every prognosis has been much too conservative. We have hit the tipping point.

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"I Study Climate Change. The Data Is Telling Us Something New." [View all] Nevilledog Oct 2023 OP

DURec leftstreet Oct 2023 #1

K&R Solly Mack Oct 2023 #2

Yeah, it doesn't look good. BootinUp Oct 2023 #3

Not good - scary in fact. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2023 #4

climate change is starting to look like a self-reinforcing/exponential process Takket Oct 2023 #5

It's a positive feedback loop. Hermit-The-Prog Oct 2023 #17

aka 'thermal runaway'. Aussie105 Oct 2023 #38

bottom line is, this isn't "the new normal" Skittles Oct 2023 #6

It does sound and even intuitively feel that way. Not good. KPN Oct 2023 #11

K&R 2naSalit Oct 2023 #7

Horrible. The world is not treating it like the emergency it is. SunSeeker Oct 2023 #8

But Inhofe brought a snowball into the Senate chamber Martin Eden Oct 2023 #9

K&R UTUSN Oct 2023 #10

Glad I got to see Waikiki Beach before it disappears. LudwigPastorius Oct 2023 #12

💧 mahina Oct 2023 #27

I remember 20 years ago chouchou Oct 2023 #13

Well for centuries people have wondered how the world will end...now we know. Jack-o-Lantern Oct 2023 #14

The world will continue on it merry way, it will not end. We and much other life will end. Magoo48 Oct 2023 #30

The planet earth will, yes soldierant Oct 2023 #34

Appears to be the way it's headed. Magoo48 Oct 2023 #35

Of course Berkeley Earth markodochartaigh Oct 2023 #15

History will judge climate deniers harshly Dirty Socialist Oct 2023 #16

I don't think they'll care Kaleva Oct 2023 #18

Climate deniers will be screaming, "Why didn't someone tell us?" Chainfire Oct 2023 #20

This is not solely on climate deniers. The first world would rather die than be inconvenienced. Magoo48 Oct 2023 #32

The time to start preparing is now Kaleva Oct 2023 #19

Please expand on your thoughts. What preparations should we be doing to prepare? Pepsidog Oct 2023 #24

Reducing carbon footprint won't provide food or water Kaleva Oct 2023 #39

Thanks for your response. As I read your suggestions, and being a fan of Pepsidog Oct 2023 #41

A number of my projects are based on hobbies Kaleva Oct 2023 #53

Determining resilience would be a first step MissB Oct 2023 #54

Great suggestions and quite a lot of work. Pepsidog Oct 2023 #55

Space colonization. tclambert Oct 2023 #46

Kick dalton99a Oct 2023 #21

Humanity is getting to the FO phase of FAFO. n/t CousinIT Oct 2023 #22

The Neanderthals homegirl Oct 2023 #23

I'm a baby boomer and I have to say, some of us tried. Lunabell Oct 2023 #25

Convincing others that don't want to be convinced senseandsensibility Oct 2023 #37

Should have listened to the scientists at the start of the disaster movie. twodogsbarking Oct 2023 #26

I'm glad I didn't have kids. The world is going to be a mess in 50 years. nt Quixote1818 Oct 2023 #28

That's one thing about war; it burns a lot carbon. Uncle Joe Oct 2023 #29

Texas A&M scientists predicted this would happen in 20-25 years. That was less than five years ago. czarjak Oct 2023 #31

The doom spiral is in action Old Crank Oct 2023 #33

Agree and promote/incentivize a plant based diet or heavily tax livestock. MLAA Oct 2023 #36

Maybe Old Crank Oct 2023 #42

And how will you make that happen in China & India? oldsoftie Oct 2023 #45

Yuo Old Crank Oct 2023 #49

About 30 percent of India's population is already vegetarian and has a meat consumption of MLAA Oct 2023 #51

But coal is a much bigger problem than meat. oldsoftie Oct 2023 #52

Climate change is real bdamomma Oct 2023 #40

Doomsday scenario: Aussie105 Oct 2023 #43

That's exactly what will happen. misanthrope Oct 2023 #44

There was a book called "The World Without Us." alfredo Oct 2023 #47

Sounds like the hockey stick rise that Al Gore tried to warn us about. Martin68 Oct 2023 #48

Disturbing number Old Crank Oct 2023 #50