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obamanut2012

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85. You know, you don't let one person say something without correcting and editing them -- I mean what I mean

Tue Oct 24, 2023, 03:14 PM

Oct 2023

It is just constant with a group of y'all on here -- you refuse to say anything that is not a lecture or implying the poster is wrong or stupid.

The whole damn point is that there is cultural differences in hostages and kidnapping ie expectations. You can't even say, "That's an interesting POV for non Americans. Unfortunately Hamas' record isn't great with hostages." Or whatever.

Jesus.

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Freed Israeli hostage filmed extending hand to Hamas militant in video released by group [View all] Donkees Oct 2023 OP

A gesture of humanity AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #1

She and her husband are peace activists Donkees Oct 2023 #2

We need more people like her AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #3

This is a loaded proposition Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #22

Ya that's exactly what I meant AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #25

Perhaps if you were to stick to writing about baseball, Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #35

Why the gaslighting? AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #55

Clearly, I have questions about what you said vs what you meant. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #62

I've explained what I meant AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #74

Snark is not synonymous to explanation. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #77

Obviously, they were replying to a post that described what Ms. Lifshitz did muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #64

She is a victim. You want to see her gesture as boston bean Oct 2023 #68

Bollocks. You don't get to say I want. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #73

The implication is her handshake and his back because they treated her oh so well boston bean Oct 2023 #96

Obviously, the reply was to what Mrs Lifshits did, not what she does. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #75

Consider it grace under pressure. TigressDem Oct 2023 #31

The poster said nothing like this obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #33

"Them"? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #54

Dear claudette Oct 2023 #57

Your response leaves a lot to be desired. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #63

This message was self-deleted by its author Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #89

I thought as you did Mossfern Oct 2023 #88

My first thought when I saw your OP obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #32

She and her husband Oded devoted their lives to human rights: Donkees Oct 2023 #60

I am afraid that we will see how realistic your hope is very shortly. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #79

Under the threat of death Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #11

:eye roll: sure AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #13

Tell me that her life and safety weren't threatened every second while Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #18

She's a peace activist AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #26

She was also a hostage. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #45

You sure know a lot for someone who wasn't there. flying_wahini Oct 2023 #93

That goes for 99.9% of DUers. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #94

Oh yes thanking your hostage taker for treating you well, while boston bean Oct 2023 #4

Stockholm syndrome? Mossfern Oct 2023 #5

The concept of "Stockholm Syndrome" was made up to cover up cop incompetence in a hostage situation. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #7

Probably not. Happy Hoosier Oct 2023 #10

Hostages have no choice in matters like this Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #14

Stockholm Syndrome's a misogynistic construct, invented by one of the worst of our most influential Swedes Celerity Oct 2023 #15

There ia no such thing as "Stockholm Syndrome" -- it is a myth obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #34

Possibly. boston bean Oct 2023 #6

Really? I see a life-long peace activist making an emotional connection with with "the other side" obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #36

Oh dear god I am going to gag. boston bean Oct 2023 #50

Think of a rape victim's emotional connection to the rapist. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #80

Been there Mossfern Oct 2023 #84

I meant to invite an objective analysis of the described situation. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #86

Thanks for the clarification Mossfern Oct 2023 #90

Your reaction is perfectly appropriate and far from being erroneous. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #91

OMG MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #97

I take it that you have no response other than going over my perceived faults. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #106

So do you think she should have spit on them on her way out? ms liberty Oct 2023 #9

No. I don't think it means anything other than boston bean Oct 2023 #12

Maybe we should listen to her and her daughter muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #19

It is being used to illustrate, see our kidnappers aren't so bad. boston bean Oct 2023 #20

So you want the media to censor her and her daughter. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #23

No, I reject that her handshake means boston bean Oct 2023 #24

You are literally implying she and her daughter are liars and/or dupes obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #40

No I am not. Who took and released the video? boston bean Oct 2023 #48

Thank you for posting this AntivaxHunters Oct 2023 #27

She was kidnapped, dragged out of her home against hr will, beaten, Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #28

You want to know why she shook his hand? Listen to her. Listen to her daughter, who said muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #29

Her husband and her daughters father is still a hostage. boston bean Oct 2023 #30

I did listen to her. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #47

Thank you! I keep saying this and no one cares obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #39

I do MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #98

You seem so invested in seeing this woman ms liberty Oct 2023 #66

She was a helpless victim. I stopped reading right after I read that sentence. P boston bean Oct 2023 #67

She was not a "helpless victim" she was a kidnapped hostage with a brain ms liberty Oct 2023 #76

She was certainly helpless in her predicament and under control of others. boston bean Oct 2023 #82

I'm not sure you even know the meaning of "certainly" any more muriel_volestrangler Oct 2023 #92

I am certain, that I understand the word certainly. boston bean Oct 2023 #95

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #100

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #99

I think that, as a hostage, she had no say in the matter whatsoever, Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #17

Yup, she literally said "Shalom" obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #38

I agree she should be applauded claudette Oct 2023 #52

She said in a press conference that her experience was hell, which makes sense. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #8

The black and white thinking by some folks is gobsmacking to me obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #41

And that black and white inthewind21 Oct 2023 #56

The terrorists continue to hold hostages. Tomconroy Oct 2023 #16

So innocent people should;d be killed in the process? DemocratInPa Oct 2023 #37

Let me know if you have a different way to destroy hamas. Tomconroy Oct 2023 #46

You mean inthewind21 Oct 2023 #58

Works for me. Tomconroy Oct 2023 #61

How awful claudette Oct 2023 #53

They are not only bad? boston bean Oct 2023 #65

Dear claudette Oct 2023 #69

Well, you wrote it. boston bean Oct 2023 #70

I know claudette Oct 2023 #71

Adios. boston bean Oct 2023 #72

Do you think MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #101

I take offense to your characterization of my comments. boston bean Oct 2023 #102

the motorcycle rider hit me with a wooden pole," moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #21

Dollars to donuts says that particular hamas bro gets fragged in the next firefight. Arthur_Frain Oct 2023 #42

We might be comparing kidnapping by US standards. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #43

Someone on Reddit who is from Syria said the same thing obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #59

By definition, taking hostages means treating them badly. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #81

You know, you don't let one person say something without correcting and editing them -- I mean what I mean obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #85

That's what a discussion board is about, isn't it? Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #87

+1 MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #103

She's a good person. They aren't. Bonx Oct 2023 #44

That is true. boston bean Oct 2023 #49

That was claudette Oct 2023 #51

It really sounds like you're saying that... BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #104

I cannot give this enough Ks and Rs. CoopersDad Oct 2023 #78

I would shake their hand as well if that could get me released from being held hostage. totodeinhere Oct 2023 #83

See, Hamas isn't so bad. BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 #105