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In reply to the discussion: The U.N. reports at least 42% of Gaza's housing units are damaged or destroyed - Democracy Now [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,273 posts)57. Yes, I think they would
It is, after all, often called a war crime these days:
This was by no means an unprecedented act by the Allies. In July 1943, long before Dresden, the Allies unleashed Operation Gomorrah, a protracted assault on Hamburg which literally melted the streets and incinerated people in searing, hurricane-strength winds. More than 20,000 died in just one night of the Hamburg campaign alone, and historians have compared it to the nuclear attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Then there was the RAF bombing of Pforzheim, a German town, shortly after the Dresden onslaught, which killed almost a third of the population.
Questions have long been raised about the strategic legitimacy of attacks like these, and the later, apocalyptic attack on Tokyo in March 1945, which flattened the city and left around 100,000 dead. Its Dresden which has attracted most attention by critics, as it was regarded as a capital of culture first and foremost, not a military target. As Victor Gregg, a British POW caught up in the firestorm later said, The people of Dresden believed that as long as the Luftwaffe kept away from Oxford, Dresden would be spared.
Dr Gregory Stanton, a scholar specialising in genocide, has classified the Dresden bombing as a war crime. Many other experts have agreed, and even suggested that Churchill himself could have been put on trial. German historian Jörg Friedrich, author of a book about the Allied bombings of German cities, went as far as saying Churchill was the greatest child-slaughterer of all time.
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But the potentially damning counterpoint to all of these technical justifications is that Bomber Harris was explicitly interested in terror as an objective in itself. He and other Allied strategists were frustrated by the relative failures of precision bombing raids and advocated massive area bombardments to kill civilians and shatter the enemys will. Harris was completely open and unashamed about this, and was actually impatient about other military bigwigs mincing their words about the ferocity of their attacks.
https://www.history.co.uk/article/was-the-destruction-of-dresden-an-allied-war-crime
Questions have long been raised about the strategic legitimacy of attacks like these, and the later, apocalyptic attack on Tokyo in March 1945, which flattened the city and left around 100,000 dead. Its Dresden which has attracted most attention by critics, as it was regarded as a capital of culture first and foremost, not a military target. As Victor Gregg, a British POW caught up in the firestorm later said, The people of Dresden believed that as long as the Luftwaffe kept away from Oxford, Dresden would be spared.
Dr Gregory Stanton, a scholar specialising in genocide, has classified the Dresden bombing as a war crime. Many other experts have agreed, and even suggested that Churchill himself could have been put on trial. German historian Jörg Friedrich, author of a book about the Allied bombings of German cities, went as far as saying Churchill was the greatest child-slaughterer of all time.
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But the potentially damning counterpoint to all of these technical justifications is that Bomber Harris was explicitly interested in terror as an objective in itself. He and other Allied strategists were frustrated by the relative failures of precision bombing raids and advocated massive area bombardments to kill civilians and shatter the enemys will. Harris was completely open and unashamed about this, and was actually impatient about other military bigwigs mincing their words about the ferocity of their attacks.
https://www.history.co.uk/article/was-the-destruction-of-dresden-an-allied-war-crime
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The U.N. reports at least 42% of Gaza's housing units are damaged or destroyed - Democracy Now [View all]
al bupp
Oct 2023
OP
I wonder what the UN would have said about Allied bombing of Germany and Japan?
former9thward
Oct 2023
#8
Israeli news reported that Netanyahu had previously propped up Hamas at the expense of the Palestinian Authority...
AntiFascist
Oct 2023
#48
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-war-israeli-foreign-minister-says-gaza-territory-will-shrink-after-war/ar-AA
enid602
Oct 2023
#44
After the despicable terror attacks by Hamas, an expanded buffer zone seems eminently reasonable.
tritsofme
Oct 2023
#46
They are not supposed to go anywhere. It is hamas military infrastructure that is supposed to go.
Beastly Boy
Oct 2023
#15
Agreed. United Nations is the Democracy Now of international organizations.
Beastly Boy
Oct 2023
#24
lol, there is absolutely no smear. These morons uncritically repeated Hamas propaganda.
tritsofme
Oct 2023
#47
The twists and turns of your narrative are so tortured, it is hard to see what you are critical of and why.
Beastly Boy
Oct 2023
#66
Well I am not as well-versed in the art of debate as you appear to be but I do try to speak form my heart
AloeVera
Oct 2023
#68
Aren't you going to correct your post to read according to the Ministry of Housing in Gaza
GuppyGal
Oct 2023
#82
Hamas also said they killed no civilians in Israel. Their figures are bullshit.
dalton99a
Oct 2023
#32
Is there anything that could cause you to deliberately shoot an innocent child?
BlueCheeseAgain
Oct 2023
#69
Is there anything that could cause you to drop a bomb on an innocent child?
Cuthbert Allgood
Oct 2023
#76
But, but, but, they need a pound of flesh because pushing these people to literally live on top of each other
onecaliberal
Oct 2023
#18
There is ONE REASON why this is happening and it's because of October 7th. No October 7th
GuppyGal
Oct 2023
#16
I know because dropping bombs on people for 15 years in a 24 mile radius will do no damage.
onecaliberal
Oct 2023
#65