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The Magistrate

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12. An Observation, Sir

Fri Oct 27, 2023, 06:06 PM

Oct 2023

Hamas is looking for a Gotterdammerung.

If the people of Gaza go down in the blood and fire Israel brings to Hamas, Hamas hopes the ruin will be sufficient to move armies to their aid, and if this fails to occur, then the Arab people will have failed their religion and its warriors, and those people in their power will receive in their bodies the punishment for their lack of devotion and obedience to God. Either way, the strategic plan calls for mass suffering to be inflicted on Gaza's people.

It is in essence a colossal murder-suicide, with the man holding the gun on several huddled clerks screaming that he won't shoot if he gets his dream kitchen, but that if he doesn't, well, just look what's going to happen.

It's a mistake to view these events as if the actors driving them were rational. The place of emotions, particularly disturbed emotions, is seldom given proper weight in either current or historical events.

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NYT: As Gazans Scrounge for Food and Water, Hamas Sits on a Rich Trove of Supplies [View all] BlueCheeseAgain Oct 2023 OP

What is it going to take for people to realize PCIntern Oct 2023 #1

The side that refers to them as freedom fighters are completely dug in on their position. Ace Rothstein Oct 2023 #5

What worries me is when I see those who I considered intelligent progressives Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #62

One has to assume a big chunk of humanitarian aid will disappear into their tunnels and bank accounts dalton99a Oct 2023 #11

Not an assumption but a reality. KewlKat Oct 2023 #39

This BBC report confirms that Hamas wnylib Oct 2023 #44

Of Couse the Butchers of HAMAS DO That. Shame Cha Oct 2023 #60

This is a pro-Israeli Lobby Group. AloeVera Oct 2023 #61

I looked up a link on the story after wnylib Oct 2023 #63

Hamas are barbarians. nt LexVegas Oct 2023 #2

K&R betsuni Oct 2023 #3

No elections, no responsibility to the people who aren't voters. We already have a system where Congress ignores the brewens Oct 2023 #4

The people of their district voted for those members JI7 Oct 2023 #6

It's estimated about 7% of the current population voted for Hamas. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #22

Haven't heard much opposition to them JI7 Oct 2023 #23

where do you listen WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #24

Many places and in fact I have heard support for them JI7 Oct 2023 #25

huh WhiskeyGrinder Oct 2023 #26

'Many places' translates as GD posts that include 'FUUUCK HAMAS!!!!' Violet_Crumble Oct 2023 #36

That's because Hamas tells them that wnylib Oct 2023 #45

Hey fucking Hamas Terrorists Cha Oct 2023 #7

I've always like the way you express yourself in demur ladylike language. speak easy Oct 2023 #13

Reminds me of my aunt Just_Vote_Dem Oct 2023 #14

Yeah, that went out the window Cha Oct 2023 #15

Priorities NowISeetheLight Oct 2023 #16

Yeah like.. Hamas Headquarters and Terrorist Complex is beneath the Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. Cha Oct 2023 #19

Cha, stop sugar coating it. Tell it like it is! :) Wonder Why Oct 2023 #28

Yeah, I do let loose.. Cha Oct 2023 #30

You could almost be an honourary Aussie! Violet_Crumble Oct 2023 #37

My son in law is an Aussie from Melbourne.. my Cha Oct 2023 #58

I posted this BBC link upthread. You might want to read wnylib Oct 2023 #46

Mahalo for letting me know, wnylib.. Cha Oct 2023 #59

Hamas views civilians as a defensive option. They only care about destroying 🇮🇱 oldsoftie Oct 2023 #8

Israel uses their weapons to protect their people. cloudbase Oct 2023 #54

WELL PUT oldsoftie Oct 2023 #64

Hamas is sitting on vital supplies that could sustain 2 million Gazans for a week. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #9

An Observation, Sir The Magistrate Oct 2023 #12

I wouldn't dream of appealing to Hamas' common sense. I am trying to appeal to the common sense of Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #21

Part of the problem I think, Sir, is that too few Americans understand 9/11. yardwork Oct 2023 #42

You touched on my pet peeve, which is much broader than the ignorant naivetee of american public Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #53

That's an interesting point. yardwork Oct 2023 #57

The answer to your question Chautauquas Oct 2023 #47

That is a much larger force than I had thought. maxsolomon Oct 2023 #10

Of course, the Israeli authorities will not allow the non-combatants out of the battle zone. David__77 Oct 2023 #17

It took four years of brutal warfare for the Syrian government to set up a humanitrian corridor in Aleppo. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #32

It was not cordoned until 2016. David__77 Oct 2023 #33

Five months between total siege and establisgment of a supply line. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #38

Hamas is killing Palestinian babies. wnylib Oct 2023 #48

Apparently HAMAS Headquarters and Terrorist Complex is beneath the Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. Cha Oct 2023 #18

Because Hamas wants Palestinians to suffer and die for more Hamas power. Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #35

Hamas doesn't care about the average citizen in Gaza SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #20

That's why JustAnotherGen Oct 2023 #27

This. There could have been peace decades ago. yardwork Oct 2023 #41

Hamas is still stealing humanitarian aid wnylib Oct 2023 #49

MAGA Hamas shitstain motherfuckers. SoFlaBro Oct 2023 #29

"It became necessary to destroy the town to save it." Eko Oct 2023 #31

Hamas said they've been planning this for two years. That means they PLANNED for Palestinians to Maru Kitteh Oct 2023 #34

They justify it in their mission of destroying Israel. wnylib Oct 2023 #50

How can Hamas not have responsibility to the civilians they govern? yardwork Oct 2023 #40

Hamas is far more concerned with killing Jews than with the plight of civilians in Gaza rollin74 Oct 2023 #43

This is why phone communications should remain open. gulliver Oct 2023 #51

State-Sanctioned Violence and Civilian Casualties Ontoepistemic Oct 2023 #52

Both Hamas and Israel hold Palestinian lives in low regard. comradebillyboy Oct 2023 #55

Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #56