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cachukis

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57. I agree, Cuba was arbitrary, but we know Cuba
Tue Oct 31, 2023, 03:02 PM
Oct 2023

perhaps a bit more than Gaza.

I have read a bit about Yasir Arafat and his negotiations with Israel. Under no circumstances was he going to give in to the loss of his purported territory.

The Israelis have always negotiated from a perspective of strength. They have had US backing.

Barak was astonished that Arafat would not come to grips with what even Clinton said was fair. It was not fair to the Palestinians.

The Israelis rightfully want control over their world, yet part of their world is controlled by a political enemy willing to respond to what they feel are incursions. There are incursions.

The world sees this and while some may appear to support Hamas, I'd bet 25 cents they don't know Hamas but feel the Palestinians are getting the short end of the stick.

Some of this might show as anti semitism, but I don't think most of the protesters are against Jews, but they are against Israeli reprisal to the innocents of Palestine.

People have a tendency to respond to what's on the surface.

This conflict has pricked a nerve that had been somewhat docile for a time.

Racism across the board has reared its ugly head since trump turned over the rocks.

I worry that the aftermath in Gaza will have a longer lasting impact on the rest of us that could have been avoided with a little more sharing.

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Where are all the people going to go who have had their homes bombed to rubble? onecaliberal Oct 2023 #1
Your "response" is not a reponse to the post. NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #11
Sure, Jan. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #20
Jan.? NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #28
In your hypothetical are the organizers and participants of Oct 7 facing criminal justice? brooklynite Oct 2023 #2
Absolutely radicalleft Oct 2023 #4
Is there a follow up question radicalleft Oct 2023 #10
If that's the case, then a cease-fire isn't a hypothetical, it's a fantasy. brooklynite Oct 2023 #44
I agree. I suspect they envisioned October 7 as their prelude to start the process, knowing JohnSJ Oct 2023 #49
All right fantasy then radicalleft Oct 2023 #55
That would mean around the world, it would be like post WW2... Archae Oct 2023 #3
Hamas members would be executed to the last person ripcord Oct 2023 #5
And after radicalleft Oct 2023 #7
We both know that is impossible obamanut2012 Oct 2023 #15
There are no insurances involved. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #6
Curiously, is Cuba a failed state? cachukis Oct 2023 #12
According to Biden it is. Mosby Oct 2023 #27
Is he your spokesman? cachukis Oct 2023 #30
No. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #32
Semantics aside, it would seem the success or cachukis Oct 2023 #45
Comparing Gaza to Cuba is pretty arbitrary to begin with. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #50
I agree, Cuba was arbitrary, but we know Cuba cachukis Oct 2023 #57
So a failed state that encompasses radicalleft Oct 2023 #13
It's way above my pay grade to answer your question, Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #35
It is not "legally" classified as a failed state. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #21
For all practical purposes. Not legally. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #36
How do you hold non-affiliated individuals no_hypocrisy Oct 2023 #8
I want to know what happens after radicalleft Oct 2023 #9
I'd like to know as well. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #18
There is no justice. 1WorldHope Oct 2023 #14
I understand your points but please humor me radicalleft Oct 2023 #16
There will be no justice for anyone. 1WorldHope Oct 2023 #25
Justice or revenge? Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #41
No I don't radicalleft Oct 2023 #43
I understand. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #47
Well said NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #29
Better security at the fence line and the towns and kibbutzim Mosby Oct 2023 #17
Hamas in Gaza will be rendered impotent radicalleft Oct 2023 #19
I don't think it will unfortunately. It will get a set back. LeftInTX Oct 2023 #22
Gazans aren't going anywhere, it's their home. Mosby Oct 2023 #23
And reign in the ultra-orthodox NoRethugFriends Oct 2023 #31
It won't happen. The Hamas charter makes it clear that they want all Jews eliminated, and JohnSJ Oct 2023 #24
That is why Israel is taking the war to them radicalleft Oct 2023 #26
There are no guarantees of success, but... LauraInLA Oct 2023 #33
I am interested radicalleft Oct 2023 #39
Sorry I didn't list any. LauraInLA Oct 2023 #48
I will look at this radicalleft Oct 2023 #52
If Hamas ceased to exist today someone else totodeinhere Oct 2023 #34
If Hamas ceased to exist today, Hezbollah would still be there... brooklynite Oct 2023 #61
It is looking more and like there will no more Gaza. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #37
Thank you radicalleft Oct 2023 #40
Annexation MattBaggins Oct 2023 #38
I fear you are right radicalleft Oct 2023 #42
I don't think so. EndlessWire Oct 2023 #54
Israel will never leave the settlements radicalleft Oct 2023 #59
Great pressure EndlessWire Oct 2023 #60
So your thinking quakerboy Nov 2023 #62
Gazans have been pawns since 1948 elias7 Oct 2023 #46
Israel is systematically making Gaza uninhabitable.. Big Blue Marble Oct 2023 #51
Thank you so much radicalleft Oct 2023 #53
why would they surrender? WarGamer Oct 2023 #56
Operation Wrath of God II Kennah Oct 2023 #58
Hypothetically, if you read the Hamas Charter as explained in The Atlantic... Hekate Nov 2023 #63
Oh I've read it in the past radicalleft Nov 2023 #66
Warriors whose goal is the utter annihilation of some other group will not stop... Hekate Nov 2023 #68
Gee, I don't know. Straw Man Nov 2023 #64
So you believe that an international coalition radicalleft Nov 2023 #67
That would be the most desirable outcome. Straw Man Nov 2023 #69
They are a dishonest actor. The only way to deal with Hamas is to wipe them all out. AZLD4Candidate Nov 2023 #65
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