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cachukis

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157. You seem to leave out that Israel didn't exist

Reply to wnylib (Reply #105)

Sat Nov 4, 2023, 04:04 PM

Nov 2023

before 1948. I think that was an unsettling factor that persists to today.

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It is difficult to be on DU now, given the anti-Palestinian rhetoric. Enough said. [View all] akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 OP

That's not enough said. No one is anti-Palestine. We are anti terrorist and anti Hamas scumbags. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #1

Hamas is a result of the atrocities by Israel against the Palestinians. Imagine your new next akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #2

Terrorist fuckstains like Hamas just want to hate, harass, and eventually kill Jews just for being Jews. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #3

Go quarrel with yourself. Am not interested in continuing a dialogue with you. nt. akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #4

There is nothing my neighbor could do to me to make me want to cut off the head of a baby. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #5

You look at too much propaganda on TV. I have heard that the President of Ukraine is killing akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #12

I know Hamas blasted their way into Israel and started killing anyone that wasn't wearing a sweaty headband. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #14

Pretty racist verbiage bruv Celerity Nov 2023 #31

Yes, because sweaty indicates a race. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #48

whatever Celerity Nov 2023 #49

Is "sweaty" a slur now? SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #58

if you do not think sweaty arabs is a slur then your slur radar is broken Celerity Nov 2023 #75

I said sweaty headband. You said arabs. Sounds like you have a hangup. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #79

No, it's definitely a you thing. n/t demmiblue Nov 2023 #81

now you are trying to spin your way out Celerity Nov 2023 #82

How about "sweaty terrorists?" Mossfern Nov 2023 #113

that is not what they typed Celerity Nov 2023 #124

It was "sweaty headbands" Mossfern Nov 2023 #136

it was a racist construct Celerity Nov 2023 #137

The way you worded that certainly is. brush Nov 2023 #109

Wow "sweaty headband" obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #43

You started this thread and now you're complaining when people respond? yardwork Nov 2023 #52

They have been killing gays for years already JI7 Nov 2023 #8

Totally on-brand for fucking turds like Hamas. To them, if you're gay, you must die. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #10

Guess what atreides1 Nov 2023 #134

News Flash Straw Man Nov 2023 #17

The solution would have been that Israel and Palestine were States. Not Israel sanctioning everything in akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #24

Palestinians had a chance for a state SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2023 #39

The Palestinian Authority... PJMcK Nov 2023 #41

Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #55

Plus the many other times Palestinian leadership has rejected any kind of compromise Autumn_Angler Nov 2023 #204

Israel is not building settlements on the Gaza strip. former9thward Nov 2023 #96

Yes, and that was soundly rejected by Hamas. Straw Man Nov 2023 #189

Martin Buber thought Israel should be a single state, secular democracy. PufPuf23 Nov 2023 #95

Actually no. Think Al quaeda, ISIS, Hezbollah, etc. elias7 Nov 2023 #28

I had decided to withdraw from this conversation cachukis Nov 2023 #74

And the armed settlers, backed by Likud, appropriating Arab land continue to inflame things. brush Nov 2023 #116

Israel has established dominion over its cachukis Nov 2023 #132

I don't get what you're saying. Is it that settlers have a right to encroach on Arab land? brush Nov 2023 #135

Not at all. But they did and it is done. Now what? cachukis Nov 2023 #138

How about the Israeli government put a stop to it. And returning the land too could help. brush Nov 2023 #139

You are aware of Netanyahu and autocracy, I'm sure. cachukis Nov 2023 #144

It sure is going to be tough. There's a sliver of hope though that Bibi and his admin wiil be ousted... brush Nov 2023 #207

So very true. The Israeli government cachukis Nov 2023 #210

Who is going to stop Israel from decimating cachukis Nov 2023 #140

So October 7th Dorian Gray Nov 2023 #36

They were both going to be recognized as a state in 1948 EX500rider Nov 2023 #50

There is little to no awareness of this fact among marybourg Nov 2023 #68

Both sides Zeitghost Nov 2023 #64

Israel was not given preference. marybourg Nov 2023 #69

Nothing can justify the atrocities committed by Hamas on 10/7. totodeinhere Nov 2023 #98

Hamas is a GD Butchering Terrorist Org that Cha Nov 2023 #99

What ignorance of history and disregard for facts you are revealing wnylib Nov 2023 #105

Excellent POST.. TY! Cha Nov 2023 #110

Great post Zeitghost Nov 2023 #119

You seem to leave out that Israel didn't exist cachukis Nov 2023 #157

Neither was there a State of Palestine. Mossfern Nov 2023 #175

That is not the point. The people living there, cachukis Nov 2023 #178

Personal story- something I was considerting as an OP Mossfern Nov 2023 #188

I cannot get into this. I did not say cachukis Nov 2023 #191

Their lives had already been upended, prior to 1948. yardwork Nov 2023 #214

Never said it was a happy place. cachukis Nov 2023 #217

"Most (Jewish) enclaves were seriously disrupted during the war." yardwork Nov 2023 #218

I suppose, but conversations here have cachukis Nov 2023 #219

All good points. yardwork Nov 2023 #220

You are in the wrong place TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #176

Hamas is the result of Yasser Arafat not taking "Yes" for an answer... SKKY Nov 2023 #215

Tell me you know nothing about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict... SKKY Nov 2023 #216

Kiss my grits Chuuku Davis Nov 2023 #230

Being happy - no BUT I wouldn't be cutting DenaliDemocrat Nov 2023 #232

K&R, One too many anti Palestine who blame them for Hamas terrorist uponit7771 Nov 2023 #6

Hamas is MAGA - Palestine branch. Same psychotic behavior as the pieces of shit in the MAGA cult. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #9

YEP!! Dictators don't represent the people uponit7771 Nov 2023 #13

They can call themselves HAM ASS Salad. The name matters little. Terrorists are terrorists worldwide like MAGA. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #15

I agree with this. LakeArenal Nov 2023 #183

THIS malaise Nov 2023 #29

Incorrect, plenty of calls for collective punishment obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #42

I'd like to see a link to one of these OP's "calling for collective punishment" EX500rider Nov 2023 #102

+1. much more in line with anything I have seen stopdiggin Nov 2023 #126

What i've seen... druidity33 Nov 2023 #190

Resignation is not the same thing as callousness Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #194

Of course not, i'm a cook... druidity33 Nov 2023 #211

That's kinda my point.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #212

I didn't say i saw that attitude FROM YOU. nt. druidity33 Nov 2023 #213

Plenty of people are justifying killing Palestinian civilians iemanja Nov 2023 #122

It's difficult to be anywhere, to breathe in and out with everything that is going on mahina Nov 2023 #7

The killing will abate when Hamas takes a dirt nap; best for both Palestine and Israel. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #11

Send trump and his cohorts to stop the carnage. They managed to cause an insurrection on the Capitol. akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #16

Orange Bastard will only destroy a toilet or a Hefty bag filled with McDonalds. SoFlaBro Nov 2023 #18

At least we are on the same page re the orange man. I don't know what 2024 will bring, but his akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #20

His supporters are faithful to him calguy Nov 2023 #60

I totally share your sentiments. I hope this will conflict will not escalate. What bothers me though, is akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #19

With you MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2023 #125

"The media needs to stop escalating crap." Aussie105 Nov 2023 #21

I agree with you, the media escalates the situation, no matter where the conflict is. Guess their boss akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #23

The media inthewind21 Nov 2023 #228

This is a really (REALLY) complex problem that has taken years to fester Layzeebeaver Nov 2023 #22

Unfortunately, the US has the same insurgents, but they are not fighting for human rights, like Hamas, akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #25

Did you say Hamas is fighting for human rights? Patton French Nov 2023 #34

Hamas is NOT fighting for human rights Dorian Gray Nov 2023 #38

Did you really just claim Zeitghost Nov 2023 #66

I appreciate the mask-off honesty Sympthsical Nov 2023 #73

But No "points" for Not knowing Shit about what Hamas stands for. Cha Nov 2023 #112

Can I ask a question? claudette Nov 2023 #143

"I am NOT condoning terrorism that Hamas committed on 10/7." Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #159

Okay claudette Nov 2023 #162

On the contrary, I think I understand what you're saying just fine. N/T Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #163

I'm sorry Zeitghost Nov 2023 #164

Huh inthewind21 Nov 2023 #229

I'm confused by your question. BlueCheeseAgain Nov 2023 #168

The statement you made below does not apply to Gazans: yagotme Nov 2023 #221

W.T.F? edisdead Nov 2023 #76

Whoa, I missed this reply. W.T.F.?! demmiblue Nov 2023 #77

This is one of the most fucked-up things I've read on here. Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #86

Yeah but it's "difficult" . Cha Nov 2023 #117

I guess it IS difficult seeing such a noted "human-rights group" like HAMAS Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #123

Yeah Yeesh.. Cha Nov 2023 #127

Well that certainly makes things clear sarisataka Nov 2023 #90

We were told Wrong. Cha Nov 2023 #120

"...but they are not fighting for human rights, like Hamas." Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #94

Well inthewind21 Nov 2023 #231

Remind me again about how the US military explicitly set out to rape, mutilate, and torture civilians as their goal? Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #233

You are responding to an entirely different point. Layzeebeaver Nov 2023 #97

Hamas is Slaughtering to wipe OUT Israel. Learn some FACTS. Cha Nov 2023 #101

This is the most batshit insane thing I've seen posted on DU. Ace Rothstein Nov 2023 #111

Rec.. TY Cha Nov 2023 #129

Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #226

not me Skittles Nov 2023 #26

I know, always liked your posts, even the bad word ones. akbacchus_BC Nov 2023 #27

it is difficult for me to hear about bombings Skittles Nov 2023 #32

You should cease acting surprised when DUers equate support of Palestinians with support of Hamas... FBaggins Nov 2023 #30

Your point is valid until you consider that some folks here have implied that the two, Hamas and Palestinian are Chainfire Nov 2023 #57

any such equation (and they have been relatively few) is VERY quickly contested and rebuked -(nt)- stopdiggin Nov 2023 #130

I don't think anyone here is anti-Palestinian. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #33

Oh but some seem to be claudette Nov 2023 #62

Well, stating that Gazans voted for Hamas is factual. They did. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #70

However claudette Nov 2023 #72

I didn't say all who voted for Hamas approved of 10/7. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #84

Sorry claudette Nov 2023 #91

I can just as easily reply that everything you said sounds a lot like Hamas talking points. Jedi Guy Nov 2023 #93

Yes, you can say that, but claudette Nov 2023 #118

you haven't been listening to those same voices stopdiggin Nov 2023 #131

I haven't seen any claudette Nov 2023 #141

From a thread you have posted in: yagotme Nov 2023 #142

I don't see it as claudette Nov 2023 #145

"Condoning an attack" is different than "supporting Hamas". yagotme Nov 2023 #146

Exactly what do you claudette Nov 2023 #148

Good Grief Willto Nov 2023 #151

It was almost claudette Nov 2023 #154

A Groups ability Willto Nov 2023 #192

Look closely at the phrase. yagotme Nov 2023 #152

"because they don't have a standing military or a working government" EX500rider Nov 2023 #153

Good Post EX500rider Willto Nov 2023 #155

Oh no PBateman70 Nov 2023 #180

Human Culture, as found in the study of multigraincracker Nov 2023 #35

There's no "anti-Palestinian rhetoric" here. betsuni Nov 2023 #37

Yes, there is - entire OPs obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #44

Link to one OP then EX500rider Nov 2023 #223

Yes, there is, including entire OPs obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #45

As some have said already, I am not anti-Palestinian. I am anti-Hamas. ShazzieB Nov 2023 #40

There was a lot of anti-German bias in WWII as well Mysterian Nov 2023 #46

"Maybe the Palestinians don't want peace" Zeitghost Nov 2023 #89

Yes! LiberaBlueDem Nov 2023 #100

Most Zeitghost Nov 2023 #114

I nearly said something, but it might be insensitive, so you have to click to read this Bucky Nov 2023 #47

Excellent Post ProfessorGAC Nov 2023 #51

You have zero credibility. From a post of yours, below NoRethugFriends Nov 2023 #53

I can't take sides on this, I think both sides are equally to blame. It is up to doc03 Nov 2023 #54

You can't take side? Zeitghost Nov 2023 #165

Didn't one side have their homelands taken from them? Its a stupid war based on doc03 Nov 2023 #181

No Zeitghost Nov 2023 #208

I have't seen any "Anti-palestinian" rhetoric. Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #56

lol thats funny dembotoz Nov 2023 #65

How would a peaceful two state solution have stopped Hamas? brooklynite Nov 2023 #59

They would claudette Nov 2023 #63

Fatah might take a two-state solution, but Hamas would not. LauraInLA Nov 2023 #80

Point to any statement by Hamas that they would accept a Palestine along with Israel brooklynite Nov 2023 #83

Yes claudette Nov 2023 #61

"Egypt coordinates with Israel about what to allow because they consider Israel the occupying power" EX500rider Nov 2023 #107

In your opinion claudette Nov 2023 #115

Less opinion, more proven fact EX500rider Nov 2023 #147

A good number of trolls, a lot of shocking rhetoric from non-trolls, many ill-founded insinuations thrown around... demmiblue Nov 2023 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author gulliver Nov 2023 #71

Count me among those who's bitten their tongue while the fights have raged on DU. Emrys Nov 2023 #78

I think I know where some of the blurring of the lines between Palestinians yagotme Nov 2023 #87

Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #103

Never said that. I'm saying there can be mental confusion when talking about both. yagotme Nov 2023 #106

Well expressed. Emotions generally outpace wisdom. cachukis Nov 2023 #171

Excellent reply, worthy of being an OP obamanut2012 Nov 2023 #172

That's why I stay out of the Israel / Gaza threads, for the most part. LuckyCharms Nov 2023 #85

I find the antisemitism to be more disturbing sarisataka Nov 2023 #88

Irony inthewind21 Nov 2023 #234

I'm afraid to whisper even a word on this subject mainer Nov 2023 #92

Exactly, it should be anti-Hamas rhetoric. brush Nov 2023 #104

So what BannonsLiver Nov 2023 #108

there is little or no 'anti-Palestinian' rhetoric on this site stopdiggin Nov 2023 #121

I just want the killing of civilians on both sides to end IronLionZion Nov 2023 #128

THIS is what is really ugly here lately MorbidButterflyTat Nov 2023 #133

Well, it's an attempt Sympthsical Nov 2023 #156

Punctuation still doesn't explain the "but", lapucelle Nov 2023 #195

And, in approx. 11 hours, with multiple responses, it still stands. yagotme Nov 2023 #161

Exactly.. the OP hasn't denied it and no amount Cha Nov 2023 #167

I would have thought that he would have edited it by now, with all the outcry. yagotme Nov 2023 #196

Yes unless that's exactly what Cha Nov 2023 #199

Had another poster here take issue with me because they thought the poster meant something else. yagotme Nov 2023 #200

As am I and everyone else calling Cha Nov 2023 #201

Ty, some seem to be, willfully blind questionseverything Nov 2023 #206

Hopefully oil goes through the roof. roamer65 Nov 2023 #149

...I also support a full Arab oil embargo on the West and Israel. roamer65 Nov 2023 #150

That will cause a massive recession and give full control to Republicans in 2024. Ace Rothstein Nov 2023 #158

...and start to save Planet Earth. roamer65 Nov 2023 #160

magats Won't "save planet Earth." Cha Nov 2023 #166

And since then the country has mostly been developed and designed around automobile usage. Ace Rothstein Nov 2023 #169

The internet has made vehicles much more of a luxury roamer65 Nov 2023 #170

Then SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2023 #173

When the climate crisis hits hard, there won't be any functional governments. roamer65 Nov 2023 #182

Right, ok n/t SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2023 #184

I can't wait to see people like you pay $8 a gallon. roamer65 Nov 2023 #185

😂😂😂 SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2023 #186

U laugh now. roamer65 Nov 2023 #187

Wow, Enjoying the possibility of watching a fellow DU'er suffer... yagotme Nov 2023 #222

You can be anti-Hamas without being anti-Palestinian JCMach1 Nov 2023 #174

If you support Hamas TexasDem69 Nov 2023 #177

Getting very polarised, true. Aussie105 Nov 2023 #179

It is difficult to be on DU now, given the pro-terrorist rhetoric. Enough said. See kelly1mm Nov 2023 #193

Weren't you the one that said Hamas was fighting for human rights? egduj Nov 2023 #197

That's funny Calculating Nov 2023 #198

I have been requested to serve for jury duty BigmanPigman Nov 2023 #202

I've been serving on tons of juries too.... Happy Hoosier Nov 2023 #203

It's always difficult being Jewish when you are attacked by cowards. William769 Nov 2023 #205

DU has certainly changed over the years jcmaine72 Nov 2023 #209

It was Avalon Sparks Nov 2023 #224

Post removed Post removed Nov 2023 #225

Because we run things now, and that means maintaining the status quo. jcmaine72 Nov 2023 #235

Thank you for the Perspective Avalon Sparks Nov 2023 #236

I am still angry that Charlemagne had 5000 Saxon captives beheaded in a single day Redleg Nov 2023 #227

The U.N. started this.... Zeecat Dec 2023 #237