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Evasporque

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361. State/County IT Infrastructure is not anything like the Pentagon's or Langley

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 11:38 AM

Nov 2012

WHy would a county need to be as secure? WHo would pay for that?

State and County IT infrastructure is like any other...full of holes...I totally find this article plausible....not the ORCA thing but the prevention of tampering at county offices or state offices by a centralized monolithic software system bought as part of a electronic voting package...THAT OHIO BOUGHT....holy shit this is not fucking rocket science...

Ohio put in place a system that had holes built in to allow votes totals to be tampered with as they were TOTALED at the source...

There is no marked ballot to count...

Anonymous would of hacked in a got copies of the source code or access to the county office machines, databases and software...then they could easily find out how the hack worked and engineer a hack to prevent it...and I think they did.

I am 20 IT pro...and it makes sense how they blocked Ohio from being tampered with...based on how Ohio does its voting with touchscreen machines and software tabulation and transmission software.

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Anonymous Claims It Stopped Karl Rove From Hacking The Election By Hacking ORCA [View all] ehrnst Nov 2012 OP

I wouldn't be surprised if they did do this...nt joeybee12 Nov 2012 #1

I completely agree. dchill Nov 2012 #11

+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2012 #17

That was my impression too, I kept thinking arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #22

what does he know that we don't? leanforward Nov 2012 #210

Not having any tech knowledge or understanding, arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #239

I hear you about Kerry cilla4progress Nov 2012 #246

"Boss Rove" RockyMtns Nov 2012 #252

This is the first I have ever heard of that book but arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #262

Partial review of "Boss Rove" extremely important book, excellent expose into the criminal crunch60 Nov 2012 #269

2 other books, art. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #279

I just pulled from my book cases 'Fooled Again' and his other arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #312

'Bush Dyslexicon' is good too, (in general, not on election theft). Mc Mike Nov 2012 #363

First, welcome to DU! PotatoChip Nov 2012 #293

Read the book: Witness to A Crime: A Citizens Audit of an American Election. raincity_calling Nov 2012 #268

Another I will have to look into, thanks! arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #316

Try this GCP Nov 2012 #278

BRAVO, BRAVO, thank you , thank you ANONYMOUS! Justice prevailed..I don't care what anyone else crunch60 Nov 2012 #263

joe trippi says tiny elvis Nov 2012 #227

I don't believe it flyingfysh Nov 2012 #2

I don't think it was broken before they hacked it on Tuesday at 10:00 am. dchill Nov 2012 #14

ORCA was never properly tested. There's no way to say it wasn't broken. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #36

Can't prove a negative. dchill Nov 2012 #37

Sure you can. 1 is not 2. jeff47 Nov 2012 #39

Thanks for the laugh. AnotherMcIntosh Nov 2012 #43

Pet peeve: that's the easiest kind of proof Recursion Nov 2012 #104

Can't prove a negative... dchill Nov 2012 #275

Architecturally, it was a fucking unmitigated DISASTER for a line of business app. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #207

wasn't so broken in 2004 0rganism Nov 2012 #193

It didn't EXIST in 2004. AtheistCrusader Nov 2012 #208

A vote-flipping app by any other name... valerief Nov 2012 #286

Isn't it though - shortly before he was to testify vanboggie Nov 2012 #333

We probably won by more than was counted Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #352

I think you're mistaken nycbiscuit Nov 2012 #362

If this whole thing is true, PotatoChip Nov 2012 #309

It was not ORCA that Anonymous tunneled into. zelduh Nov 2012 #271

Interesting! arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #3

defiantly cool sasha031 Nov 2012 #19

Me too, nothing like the fear of cyber god to arthritisR_US Nov 2012 #20

To answer your question, there's a big difference between rigging a machine and breaking it. Marr Nov 2012 #4

Karl Rove on election night Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #5

ORCA was a propaganda device. cprise Nov 2012 #69

Fried okra Blue4Texas Nov 2012 #78

I love me some okra.... ReRe Nov 2012 #82

Ohio's SoS has a web site. jeff47 Nov 2012 #182

On election night, it turned out Rove was the hack, hack politician who lost on every hack horse Coyotl Nov 2012 #251

It's a crock. slackmaster Nov 2012 #6

Thank you very much for this wisdom. This belongs right afer the OP, not after the Ochestra of the Coyotl Nov 2012 #249

Can someone explain to me how something that was purported to be a reporting system Chiyo-chichi Nov 2012 #7

I'd heard the same Control-Z Nov 2012 #12

It only failed on election day because they never load-tested it. jeff47 Nov 2012 #33

None of us femrap Nov 2012 #63

Actually, the people who developed ORCA have publicly discussed what happened to their system. jeff47 Nov 2012 #175

Why the femrap Nov 2012 #194

Because I despise it when someone else tries to claim credit for hard work. jeff47 Nov 2012 #322

"Had you heard about Obama's get-out-the-vote program before election day? Pretty much no one had." stlsaxman Nov 2012 #283

then you actually hadn't heard crap. jeff47 Nov 2012 #323

I'd heard of it... SemperEadem Nov 2012 #304

Nope. I'm talking about the system they created to support what he was talking about jeff47 Nov 2012 #324

Ummm, the Romney campaign was publicly touting it before the election fujiyama Nov 2012 #260

What femrap Nov 2012 #329

Rove was upset because he took hundreds of millions of dollars from billionaires fujiyama Nov 2012 #332

I agree that femrap Nov 2012 #348

Are you sure hacking had nothing Control-Z Nov 2012 #87

What Control-Z said. ^^^ japple Nov 2012 #162

Agreed. nt. WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #166

No one has provided any credible evidence of any hacking. jeff47 Nov 2012 #170

Jeff that is why hacking is so successful... It doesn't leave any evidence behind... This is why midnight Nov 2012 #213

They put a proxy server in that intercepts data coming from polling places and LiberalArkie Nov 2012 #16

There's a minor problem with your theory jeff47 Nov 2012 #26

Jeff47 you are naiive! Example: There were voting totals being sent wirelessly to AikidoSoul Nov 2012 #46

I noticed you managed to not provide a link for your claim. jeff47 Nov 2012 #179

Bradblog links valerief Nov 2012 #287

Even if they were on a separate network, it would be quite easy to bridge it RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #216

vote totals are staged at the county level...something collects that... Evasporque Nov 2012 #360

That makes no sense BlueStreak Nov 2012 #30

Knowing the track record for the GOP's lies and penchant for malicious mischief against political calimary Nov 2012 #74

I believe they tried (or intended) to rig it -- just not this way BlueStreak Nov 2012 #120

What is "reied?" eom tledford Nov 2012 #132

A typo (now corrected) BlueStreak Nov 2012 #158

ORCA was a voter tracking system. Blue State Bandit Nov 2012 #173

That makes sense. But if Anonymous messed with ORCA, BlueStreak Nov 2012 #186

Anon Note says: RobertEarl Nov 2012 #195

If we had an AG who wasn't a complete patsy, that's where the info should go BlueStreak Nov 2012 #204

The precinct polling places know their numbers and will notice if that changes. Coyotl Nov 2012 #253

IOW, how do you do your absolutely vital GOTV - AND - not know actual counts as close as possible. patrice Nov 2012 #42

ORCA was not based on counts... Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #157

ANON never said it was ORCA, read his post closely Liberal In Texas Nov 2012 #242

I was replying Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2012 #295

That's my understanding as well. yardwork Nov 2012 #48

An explanation cprise Nov 2012 #65

the letter clearly states "and even that of his ORCA" not only ORCA FreeBC Nov 2012 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author FreeBC Nov 2012 #142

exactly. There is no connection between gotv (ORCA) and vote counting. robinlynne Nov 2012 #159

I am not saying I believe this, but: naaman fletcher Nov 2012 #307

OCRA and Red Taters. GeorgeGist Nov 2012 #8

Might that explain Comcast briefly shutting down Mitt's servers that night ... Myrina Nov 2012 #9

DOS attack. Not DNS attack. jeff47 Nov 2012 #38

See, told ya I didn't understand! Myrina Nov 2012 #62

More than likely that would be a DDoS attack, as opposed to a DoS attack. RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #217

Depends on the size of their upstream pipe. jeff47 Nov 2012 #364

Its possible, but GOP incompetence is more likely. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #10

I think it's not either / or.....but both IMHO AikidoSoul Nov 2012 #50

This doesn't see, highly credible. Vote tampering operations are generally state specific Exultant Democracy Nov 2012 #13

That's just it. Unknown Beatle Nov 2012 #75

Big deal. I used my BRAIN POWER to distract Mitt during the last debate. Robb Nov 2012 #15

Stop it! STOP IT!!!!!! randome Nov 2012 #51

Hey, the Georgia GOP claims we are under mind-control. Maybe this is what they meant. nt silvershadow Nov 2012 #71

You won the election for Obama Coyotl Nov 2012 #256

"We are watching you, Karl Rove." dchill Nov 2012 #18

Anon is cooler than Batman RockyMtns Nov 2012 #255

cooler than Batman... dchill Nov 2012 #277

i suppose there will never be rock solid proof either way. barbtries Nov 2012 #21

Don't know if it's true, but on the off-chance it is, I'm entertained! backscatter712 Nov 2012 #23

Now THAT is eminently plausible. Occulus Nov 2012 #34

My thoughts exactly! tavalon Nov 2012 #176

Don't kid yourself. RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #218

But in this case hackers, really good hackers were needed tavalon Nov 2012 #355

A shame this is bullshit Ohio Joe Nov 2012 #24

I smell bullshit. cali Nov 2012 #25

Delusions of grandeur NoOneMan Nov 2012 #27

I would be far more inclined to believe this post ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #28

And I am sure the DoJ would share such revelation with you. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #76

I'm pretty sure ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #96

It is still a little early for indictments. Besides the DoJ did nothing about 2000 and 2004. What rhett o rick Nov 2012 #117

As much as we would protest ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #125

I guess I am not as trusting as you. nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #131

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #138

Sorry you lost me there. Intimating that I am looking to hate the admin ends this "discussion". nm rhett o rick Nov 2012 #151

I'm HAPPY. they Lost, we Won, that's the most important. I'm going with Anonymous. crunch60 Nov 2012 #270

I choose to believe it. Yes I understand that it's partially because I "want to believe". rhett o rick Nov 2012 #310

Too early for indictments tavalon Nov 2012 #178

Yeah, clearly they don't understand that the internet is a series of tubes tavalon Nov 2012 #177

State/County IT Infrastructure is not anything like the Pentagon's or Langley Evasporque Nov 2012 #361

I don't know what happened, and I don't understand the technical aspects, but ... Arugula Latte Nov 2012 #29

Look at how arrogant and over confident... CoffeeCat Nov 2012 #101

I believe you are right. Revlon10 Nov 2012 #154

I am reminded of 2004 WeekendWarrior Nov 2012 #169

That's what I don't get malaise Nov 2012 #171

This story is utter crap. jeff47 Nov 2012 #31

Jeez did anybody actually read the letter before commenting? FreeBC Nov 2012 #135

Go read it again. You are completely wrong. jeff47 Nov 2012 #174

They don't have to be directly connected to the Internet RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #220

They aren't connected to the Internet AT ALL jeff47 Nov 2012 #325

Sorry, my bad, the tabulator, not the actual voting machine RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #358

How did they transmit vote totals to Ohio SoS? unc70 Nov 2012 #281

Memory card. jeff47 Nov 2012 #327

That's what I was trying to say with my "series of tubes" comment tavalon Nov 2012 #181

My thoughts exactly. To anyone with IT knowledge, this sounds like a bunch of made up bullshit. phleshdef Nov 2012 #241

It reminds me of a stupidity test crossed with a fly strip Coyotl Nov 2012 #258

I don't care whether it's true or not! protect our future Nov 2012 #32

No, it isn't even a might be. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #93

All obvious opinions of yours since you show no demonstrable proof NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #292

I am under no obligation to provide proof RomneyLies Nov 2012 #300

The claim by Anonymous does however seem to jive with the reactions of Rove NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #308

Any claim made after the fact is easy to make it "seem to jive" with whatever the fuck you want RomneyLies Nov 2012 #311

You should at least qualify your claim of "Completely tinfoilhat bullshit" with IMO NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #328

No need to. It's factual RomneyLies Nov 2012 #330

...except Anon announced the op BEFORE the fact MrOxwall Nov 2012 #334

Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Nov 2012 #335

Prove they did anything. RomneyLies Nov 2012 #336

+1! gateley Nov 2012 #97

The "protectors of democracy" could use a proof-reader arcane1 Nov 2012 #35

They could also use someone that understands networks so they don't sound so dumb. (nt) jeff47 Nov 2012 #40

Plus somebody who understands what a web app is vs. what tabulators and voting machines are RomneyLies Nov 2012 #338

Velvet Revolution is legit Viva_La_Revolution Nov 2012 #122

Oops, I thought they came with OWS tavalon Nov 2012 #184

You are certainly right there FreeBC Nov 2012 #137

Velvet Revolution is one of the many anarchist groups to spring from OWS tavalon Nov 2012 #183

Velvet Revolution is not an anarchist group and did not spring from OWS starroute Nov 2012 #211

Yeah, I know you're right tavalon Nov 2012 #356

Velvet Revolution = Gentile Revolution. RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #222

Ahh yes. For the lack of a proof-reader the world was lost. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #317

Wow Berlum Nov 2012 #41

I don't want to say "I told you so", but I told you so 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #44

Its a romantic idea LiberalLovinLug Nov 2012 #58

Very unlikely 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #347

I thought BO's boys may have neutralized the flipped votes. joeunderdog Nov 2012 #134

Yes, BO had a team of geeks too 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #344

wrong link - here's your thread bananas Nov 2012 #221

Yikes! You are correct. Corrected on edit. Thanks. ~nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #345

+1 NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #294

+10 99th_Monkey Nov 2012 #346

Anonymous claims to have started Hurricane Sandy. randome Nov 2012 #45

Do you have data to back up your implication that Anonymous is prone to announcing fake attacks? FreeBC Nov 2012 #133

This 'announcement' by Anonymous is one such fake assertion. randome Nov 2012 #136

another commenter misreading the announcement FreeBC Nov 2012 #141

So 'killing' a website that has nothing to do with voting machines somehow stops voting fraud. randome Nov 2012 #156

The name on this letter is not "Anonymous," so it might not even be from Anonymous, but tblue37 Nov 2012 #150

now THAT is bovine fecal matter RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #223

ORCA had NOTHING TO DO WITH VOTING MACHINES... brooklynite Nov 2012 #47

It had everything to do with calling the election. cprise Nov 2012 #68

ORCA wouldn't give you "propaganda" any more than making numbers up would... brooklynite Nov 2012 #106

Disagree... People worship technology, it creates a kind of credibility. n/t cprise Nov 2012 #110

In which case, all they'd do is SAY ORCA was giving them great results... brooklynite Nov 2012 #111

How do you know what it was? You only know what they say it was. sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #84

reverse psy ops Generic Other Nov 2012 #164

This I can agree with tavalon Nov 2012 #187

Better reading comprehension please.. they are describing two actions FreeBC Nov 2012 #128

Does anyone have a copy of the ORCA computer code? UCmeNdc Nov 2012 #49

See the post above your. StrictlyRockers Nov 2012 #143

Why would that matter? FreeBC Nov 2012 #144

3 states ...Ohio, Florida, and Pennsylvania??? Tribetime Nov 2012 #52

Probably not PA but VA. Any "close" state with a rethug governor. n/t BumRushDaShow Nov 2012 #79

How anyone can buy into this load of dog shit is beyond me. It's so stupid it's staggering. cali Nov 2012 #53

Ah but that's because Anonymous...no, you're right. randome Nov 2012 #55

No, you are not reading it correctly FreeBC Nov 2012 #130

You obviously have no clue how firewalls work. nt RomneyLies Nov 2012 #339

This explains the melt down. sarcasmo Nov 2012 #54

uh, no. it most certainly does not. but this thread demonstrates cali Nov 2012 #57

They are lying RomneyLies Nov 2012 #56

Prove It! HangOnKids Nov 2012 #70

Before Wonkette sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #59

You rang? wonkette Nov 2012 #86

^^woot! nashville_brook Nov 2012 #92

Keep up the good work Wonkette. For anyone who knows statistics it's obvious Ohio was stolen in 2004 diane in sf Nov 2012 #107

You're snarky sulphurdunn Nov 2012 #129

welcome to DU, wonkette--and this is my current fave heartwarming election story librechik Nov 2012 #145

Love your site! Read it every day! StrictlyRockers Nov 2012 #146

Well, I definitely agree with that tavalon Nov 2012 #188

Hi! I LOVE Wonkette's snarkiness! Keep up the good work! Matariki Nov 2012 #202

A HUGE welcome to DU ... & I happen to like snark... jillan Nov 2012 #209

A hearty welcome to DU. Snarkoleptic Nov 2012 #232

BWHAAAHAHAHAHAAAAA! The Doctor. Nov 2012 #273

Quick ask me something only I would know! wonkette Nov 2012 #314

I call bullshit. nt RomneyLies Nov 2012 #340

Ummmm.... What item did I leave in your apartment two months ago? The Doctor. Nov 2012 #357

Anonymous didn't say they stopped the theft through ORCA. Only that wiggs Nov 2012 #60

Exactly. I wish people would read more carefully. Liberal In Texas Nov 2012 #105

Anyone can claim to be Anonymous Matariki Nov 2012 #201

Please stop! You're scaring the Third Way half to death! Wait, no, on Zorra Nov 2012 #61

Apart from being bullshit, this doesn't even sound like Anonymous. gkhouston Nov 2012 #64

I call BULLSHIT on this UNLESS they provide the evidence NOW Matariki Nov 2012 #66

Wait...do you really believe that a status quo that FORCES us to use electronic voting Zorra Nov 2012 #121

You have a point. Matariki Nov 2012 #200

They will not provide evidence RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #224

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Nov 2012 #67

You have it right here. lobointexas Nov 2012 #152

it heaven05 Nov 2012 #72

This makes no sense. drm604 Nov 2012 #73

It may or may not be true. What is amazing are the people here so determined to deny rhett o rick Nov 2012 #77

No. I just hate bullshit. cali Nov 2012 #81

I envy your pride in knowing that you can unequivocally determine what is and isnt bullshit. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #115

If you're so quick to dismiss this, then you didn't really learn much from Ohio in 2004. EOTE Nov 2012 #118

What? Republicans cheat? They lie? They steal? By any means necessary? joeunderdog Nov 2012 #139

I don't deny that voting machines can be hacked and may have been, drm604 Nov 2012 #103

They werent hacking the machines. They were changing the tallies. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #116

"Changing the tallies" versus "hacking the machines" drm604 Nov 2012 #203

It has nothing to do with semantics. But if you want to believe, who am I to rhett o rick Nov 2012 #244

BS Johnny2X2X Nov 2012 #80

Hmmm... 2naSalit Nov 2012 #83

I thought of Anonymous too.... ReRe Nov 2012 #85

If this is true, the letter is genius gollygee Nov 2012 #88

yeah, this is a hoax IMO until and unless more evidence comes in to confirm it InsultComicDog Nov 2012 #113

OK, this is fun whether it's true or not! LongTomH Nov 2012 #89

This is going to sound picky Hekate Nov 2012 #90

While I agree with those here.. sendero Nov 2012 #95

I know coders RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #226

Many programmers make excellent technical writers dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #234

We don't know RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #282

Anyone can code dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #342

So, post the source code Anonymous progressoid Nov 2012 #91

blabbity-blabbity-blah-blab-blah struggle4progress Nov 2012 #94

Has Nate Silver ever gone back and retroactively analyzed the polls from 2004? FreeBC Nov 2012 #98

I repeat (much good it will do me), NO ELECTED OFFICIAL OR CANDIDATE complained... brooklynite Nov 2012 #108

I would believe him if he said so. EOTE Nov 2012 #119

So what? What an odd rational... FreeBC Nov 2012 #126

House Judiciary Committee Democratic Staff investigated TriplD Nov 2012 #153

Many elected officials and candidates complained in 2004. hedda_foil Nov 2012 #254

Let me get your logic. No official complained therefore there was nothing wrong. rhett o rick Nov 2012 #318

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence... brooklynite Nov 2012 #349

Not that I know of but it would certainly be interesting. n/t pa28 Nov 2012 #109

I think it is sombody trying to start soemthing. notadmblnd Nov 2012 #100

If just the idea that this may be true ohheckyeah Nov 2012 #102

Karl Rove doesn't sleep., he regenerates NoPasaran Nov 2012 #149

Karl Rove, As They Say, Has a History MinM Nov 2012 #112

I said as much last week. Many others did too. AllyCat Nov 2012 #114

True or not, KKKarl Rove's tears taste delicious. blogslut Nov 2012 #123

ORCA was a sack of shit that hacked itself. nt bluestate10 Nov 2012 #124

ORCA killer, The Great Oz... let's just keep pretending they are the same thing FreeBC Nov 2012 #147

"Looks legit"....really? TroglodyteScholar Nov 2012 #127

It's Wonkette! Denzil_DC Nov 2012 #289

OOOOOO! I believe it. Howler Nov 2012 #140

hamRove's 2naSalit Nov 2012 #161

Isn't there enough info here edhopper Nov 2012 #148

Yeah, well, then these wannabes can send their info to the feds. randome Nov 2012 #163

Are you serious? tritsofme Nov 2012 #192

More facetious edhopper Nov 2012 #198

awwwww fascisthunter Nov 2012 #219

Why is everyone focusing on ORCA? dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #155

The fact that this latest 'announcement' can't be easily understood points to it being bullshit. randome Nov 2012 #160

I don't see it that way dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #185

I think we won the election because...we won the election. randome Nov 2012 #189

Seems that your mind is made up dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #235

Simple explanation to ORCA? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #165

Do you have a link for that info on ORCA? dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #236

It is about simple network architecture design RobertEarl Nov 2012 #250

So you just made stuff up dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #267

Well, Anon calls it ORCA RobertEarl Nov 2012 #291

I'm pretty sure Anon does not call it ORCA dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #343

Fat traitor Rove JEB Nov 2012 #167

Not that I don't respect Anonymous, but mrsadm Nov 2012 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author JPZenger Nov 2012 #172

Here is the original source Wonkette got her info from (Much, much more at link within): Melinda Nov 2012 #180

That Occupy for Accountability link isn't loading starroute Nov 2012 #231

Thanks dreamnightwind Nov 2012 #238

So they are claiming they committed two federal felonies RomneyLies Nov 2012 #359

I'm Inclined To Believe It colsohlibgal Nov 2012 #190

We won the election by voting. Not by some super-heroic cyber agency 'rescuing' us. randome Nov 2012 #191

Exactly right. Facts are that Obamas GOTV system was well tested and highly effective. Fact. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #197

This just proves that the Birther mentality in Republicans also exists in Democrats RomneyLies Nov 2012 #341

Are you equating Democrats with Republicans? argiel1234 Nov 2012 #350

Two reasons to disbelieve the claim: Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #196

Anonymous issued this video to Rove on 10/22: Melinda Nov 2012 #206

+1 nt Zorra Nov 2012 #228

Thank you for reminding me of the pre-election warning. OK, very interesting evidence pro Anonymous Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2012 #280

Bullshit. Orca was piece of shit mobile app that didn't scale toddaa Nov 2012 #199

I could see it notafool Nov 2012 #205

Welcome to DU notafool FedUpWithIt All Nov 2012 #288

Naah. I don't think so . . . MrModerate Nov 2012 #212

I think most of us can agree that........ johnq45 Nov 2012 #214

There's more information and links at Neal Rauhauser's blog starroute Nov 2012 #215

that would explain his Election Night meltdown Setsuna1972 Nov 2012 #225

They should have expected Anonymous! RoccoR5955 Nov 2012 #229

Watch TurdB.'s head blow up on Fox News..pretty much proves this. joanbarnes Nov 2012 #230

I believe it certainly adds credence to the claim, NorthCarolina Nov 2012 #331

it has to be true. how can it not be? arely staircase Nov 2012 #233

Thanks for posting this. hrmjustin Nov 2012 #237

ORCA was a means to justify their gains. fearnobush Nov 2012 #240

Check this out -- Beached Killer Whale, ORCA, Not 'Obama's Gifts' Beat Romney - Forbes Up2Late Nov 2012 #243

There Is No Claim Of Adding Votes, Just Keeping Rove From "Massaging" The Numbers colsohlibgal Nov 2012 #245

I call BULLSHIT. And, this is really a dangerous and idiotic prank too. Coyotl Nov 2012 #247

Some thoughts, a few guesses, and a conclusion. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #248

Some thoughts on your thoughts starroute Nov 2012 #303

What you say is possible. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #320

I'm sure they'd want to take credit for it fujiyama Nov 2012 #257

Developed in-house, on the cheap. HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #265

Wonkette DianeB Nov 2012 #259

doubtful CabalPowered Nov 2012 #261

Website dedicated to the guy who developed ORCA HooptieWagon Nov 2012 #264

ORCA was a fail from the Gitcho rightsideout Nov 2012 #266

I think the guy that wrote the Forbes commentary called ORCA Romney's Fail Whale Up2Late Nov 2012 #276

If Anonymous really did hack the ahcking (and I don't believe they did) KitSileya Nov 2012 #272

Hmmmm interesting. nt Raine Nov 2012 #274

Thank you. Revlon10 Nov 2012 #284

Ditto. ananda Nov 2012 #299

I LOVE thinking Anonymous halted the evildoers!!!! nt valerief Nov 2012 #285

Personally I LOVE thinking that that Obama's GOTV and the american public halted the evildoers. nt Bodhi BloodWave Nov 2012 #296

Americans did the right thing this year and in 2004. However, in 2004, the GOP cheated. valerief Nov 2012 #321

Let me get my checkbook bucolic_frolic Nov 2012 #290

orca killer mcgarry50 Nov 2012 #297

Thanks sooo much Anonymous!!! Love Ya'! hue Nov 2012 #298

I call BS!! nt. SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #301

Thank you Anonymous. dotymed Nov 2012 #302

If this is true, I would like to thank them. liberal N proud Nov 2012 #305

So, where is the DONATE NOW button this time? I like buying BS. Coyotl Nov 2012 #306

This is bothersome. That we're even talking about the possibility of an unsound election is lousy. Gregorian Nov 2012 #313

LOL! Karl Rove's twisted *pre-election justification* of how Romney would take Ohio: Oct. 31, 2012 Zorra Nov 2012 #315

Everyone knew that fast greasy bastard was out to... santamargarita Nov 2012 #319

Fuck off Rove.............. thelordofhell Nov 2012 #326

PROOF the claim is bullshit RomneyLies Nov 2012 #337

Anonymous is looking to insert itself in something important like applegrove Nov 2012 #351

Based on this article, this story could be true fried eggs Nov 2012 #353

I had a feeling it wasn't the Democratic Party that threw a monkey wrench in vote stealing machine yurbud Nov 2012 #354