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In reply to the discussion: If Anonymous has definitive proof that Rove tried to hack the vote, present it. [View all]Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)149. Right. There is no way for them...
...to release the information without exposing themselves. That's why most of us don't believe them. If you're going to advertise yourself as a big anarchist hacking organization and can't figure out a way to leak info without signing your name, you have zero credibility.
Go to Walmart, buy a cheap thumb drive, load info, insert thumb drive into unmarked envelope, seal (with water...no DNA), stick stamp on envelope, drive to some rural area, find mailbox, stick envelope in mailbox and send off to authorities. Oh, be sure to put one of those little Anonymous logos on the envelope to advertise your omnipotence and stealthiness.
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If Anonymous has definitive proof that Rove tried to hack the vote, present it. [View all]
ProSense
Nov 2012
OP
Do you actually think you're going to stop people from posting their opinions on this board?....
OldDem2012
Nov 2012
#233
Maybe you could choose not to read these threads, instead of being, you know,
WinkyDink
Nov 2012
#253
Exactly. It's been proven every way ....statistically, technically, timing, cover-up....
loudsue
Nov 2012
#327
Send it to Mother Jones, Atlantic Monthly and about 1/2 a dozen other news outlets
TalkingDog
Nov 2012
#162
The foreign press has written about electronically flipping the primary for Romney.
reusrename
Nov 2012
#170
It's suddenly become obvious that you don't have a grasp of the question being raised here.
reusrename
Nov 2012
#361
That quoted bit is the claim being made by the fellow doing this statistical analysis.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2012
#363
yes, peer review is necessary - can't image it taking more than another month or two
reusrename
Nov 2012
#368
There is absolutely NOTHING more dangerous about sharing the code and logs
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2012
#348
But who is Anon referring to in this video to give info to? Wish they would turn proof over.
glinda
Nov 2012
#309
I agree Manny. There is no reason for Anon to expose themselves. I doubt that they have any
rhett o rick
Nov 2012
#131
'No reason', apart from basic honesty, that is, and a desire not to be complicit
muriel_volestrangler
Nov 2012
#353
His untouchability is determined by his masters.But they have a long history of protecting their own
rhett o rick
Nov 2012
#127
Kinda like how Mike Connell got his comeuppance when he died in that plane crash...
cascadiance
Nov 2012
#240
But they can be assured that they would be. I just love threads like this.
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#186
You need to read and listen to Stephen Spoonamore to understand. They did not use the
Dustlawyer
Nov 2012
#5
That is also just a bunch of BS, just like the current deal, piled higher and deeper
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#72
It is a n incontrovertable fact that the primary was electronically flipped.
reusrename
Nov 2012
#177
I do understand you much better now. You are definitely on the right track.
reusrename
Nov 2012
#377
The reason you "round up the others" is you have no other reliable measurement.
jeff47
Nov 2012
#378
No, he may very well be right. But he needs to use data to show he is right. (nt)
jeff47
Nov 2012
#382
Well, I agree with your claim, but this isn't really a statistical abnormality, it's an algorithm.
reusrename
Nov 2012
#325
It's remarkable that one of the most exacting scientific practices there is (programming)
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2012
#70
You're closer to getting this than most. Computer science forensics could find the
AikidoSoul
Nov 2012
#150
Where's the code? Where's the code? Where's the code? Where's the code?
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2012
#11
Nor is it up to zealots to prove their god exists because they already know he does
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#86
It's not ProSense who "demands" it. It's basic modern scientific claim-making
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2012
#19
When you are leaning over to believe something, it looks like others are tilting
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#91
But you are willing to trust these people you don't know to have done something
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2012
#319
Do you have any idea what it takes to develop software for embedded systems?
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2012
#320
Uh huh. That's why when I patch code, I can show the before/after edits and explain why.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2012
#347
Sure. Every time a CT gains traction on DU, the people asking questions are said to be 'scared'.
randome
Nov 2012
#290
Worst than a fairy tale, it is disinformation supporting disinformation, intended to deceive voters
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#95
It reminds me of faith in the supernatural. Proof is irrelevant, the Savior is coming.
freshwest
Nov 2012
#139
Might as well. Going in circles, like arguing with repukes. Just believe, it'll all gonna happen!
freshwest
Nov 2012
#192
Anonymous is not a part of the government, so the evidence would be admissible. The problem
Egalitarian Thug
Nov 2012
#187
This just in: ProSense stands up for poor put upon Karl Rove who has been accused of evildoing
Fumesucker
Nov 2012
#33
Rove is the Devil; Anonymous is God...It's time to leave the faith-reasoning to the theologians
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2012
#73
I am defending Rove. I think he failed all by himself w/o any help from a bullshit story!
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#188
no shit. blind and unquestioning partisonship no matter which party makes for strange bedfellows!"
boilerbabe
Nov 2012
#178
Not to me, it doesn't.. It sounds like she's asking for accountability and for that
Cha
Nov 2012
#275
You are correct. They need to put up or shut up. If they cannot or will not provide proof,
patricia92243
Nov 2012
#60
If Velvet Revolution didn't have a DONATE button, would this "Election Fraud" even exist?
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#67
Me too, and I know exactly how they did it and who did. That's why I know this is BS thru and thru
Coyotl
Nov 2012
#124
"If you think the Dems are lily white in the area of voter fraud, I have a bridge to sell you."
ProSense
Nov 2012
#123
If you want "evidence" vote for someone who will give you "investigations"
Eyes of the World
Nov 2012
#130
"Where's your evidence Anonymous was not able to do what they claimed to have done?"
ProSense
Nov 2012
#137
LOL. You're normally a smart poster, but you just don't get Anonymous, do you? nt.
OldDem2012
Nov 2012
#231
There is plent of evidence from 2000 on why does the Obama administration need
aandegoons
Nov 2012
#135
This is the most sensible "no they didn't" post in this thread. I suspect you are 100% correct,
Dark n Stormy Knight
Nov 2012
#331
They have said enough that any competent ivestigative/intelligence organization should be able
geckosfeet
Nov 2012
#152
Responses indicate that we're pretty scattered on this election fraud issue.
Gregorian
Nov 2012
#175
"Seriously, there's really nothing they could present to prove their claims."
ProSense
Nov 2012
#185
Just Because People Believe It's PLAUSIBLE Doesn't Mean People Believe It Definitely Happened
Skraxx
Nov 2012
#298
Sorry but that's not their job. They have brought forth suspicions that this happened.
Cleita
Nov 2012
#181
I think there is more than a loony suspicion here. I believe a warrant to investigate the
Cleita
Nov 2012
#190
Here's what I know having watched this closely at the time re: Ohio + Anonymous
flamingdem
Nov 2012
#194
There has been proof since 2000, and during every election since. there are books and movies on the s
robinlynne
Nov 2012
#204
Interesting thought experiments: what evidence would satisfy vote fraud
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#224
I will go much more modest: what evidence would convince me of this particular claim
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2012
#232
I really think anonymous/wikileaks/Fitrakis jumped the gun, understandably they believed
flamingdem
Nov 2012
#235
Fair enough. I'm a big believer in Occam's Razor and, barring presentation
coalition_unwilling
Nov 2012
#237
That's fine...I've said throughout this thread that there's nothing wrong with
alcibiades_mystery
Nov 2012
#261
You need to look at the stuff Mike Collins has published on algorithmic vote flipping.
reusrename
Nov 2012
#269
I'm sure Anon will give us the whole story when, where and how they want to. They keep their id's
judesedit
Nov 2012
#244
What if it can no longer BE proven, being a transitory and random hacking program?
WinkyDink
Nov 2012
#252
Well, why don't you elucidate just HOW it "was a joke," m-kay? Rove wasn't & isn't laughing.
WinkyDink
Nov 2012
#276
I haven't found really anything on Rove on AnonNews which is interesting.
rightsideout
Nov 2012
#328
"This isn't a movie.....This is real life, and Rove needs to be investigated if
merrily
Nov 2012
#329