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betsuni

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22. Why this then:

Thu Nov 9, 2023, 03:31 AM

Nov 2023

"The people of Detroit know the real cost of Hillary Clinton's free trade policies." As if Detroit wasn't in trouble before 1993 (BLAME DEMOCRATS!).

And "Hillary might want to apologize to the families who lost loved ones in Iraq. Or to the massive levels of destabilization we are now seeing in that region. Or Senator Clinton might want to apologize to the millions of workers in this country who lost their jobs because of the trade agreements she supported."

Can someone post facts that manufacturing job losses were made much worse by trade deals and this was because of Democrats? Before NAFTA and after? This wasn't the fault of corporations and their greed?

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30 years on, whose side of this NAFTA debate would you support [View all] Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 OP

Ross Perot was an eccentric for sure but he was correct on NAFTA. former9thward Nov 2023 #1

Yes indeed. NAFTA, moving from GATT to WTO, giving China MFN status Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #4

He was very right. But it was inevitable. The cash flow. cachukis Nov 2023 #6

Only inevitable if TheFarseer Nov 2023 #9

Persactly. cachukis Nov 2023 #10

this is the way Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #12

Na. Perot was wrong. MyNameIsJonas Nov 2023 #30

Perot wasn't wrong leftstreet Nov 2023 #2

As Zhou Enlai remarked in 1972 about the French Revolution gratuitous Nov 2023 #3

The cash flow. cachukis Nov 2023 #7

Under DU rules I can't comment nt doc03 Nov 2023 #5

one can comment on the issue without attacking Dems Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #8

Vice President Al Gore and Riss Perot twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #11

fixed it Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #13

I liked it. twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #24

Manufacturing peaked in the U.S. in the '60s, shifting to a service economy. Automation is betsuni Nov 2023 #14

no one said it was the beginning of job losses -- I work in supply chain Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #21

Why this then: betsuni Nov 2023 #22

Please? Before NAFTA and after? Nobody? betsuni Nov 2023 #23

Nobody is blaming Dems. I am blaming both parties caving to greedy corps Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #34

Careful ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #29

... Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #33

I was always wary of NAFTA Mossfern Nov 2023 #15

The Problems With NAFTA Celerity Nov 2023 #16

yes--agree with all if those. Canada has made out well Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #19

Great research, as usual Just_Vote_Dem Nov 2023 #26

It sure as hell did NOT improve the trade balance with Canada and Mexico dalton99a Nov 2023 #17

fascinating chart--wow Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #18

Recall some union members saying tiredtoo Nov 2023 #20

Capital District Labor Religion Coalition and NAFTA RSherman Nov 2023 #25

It wasnt so much what NAFTA did to the economy. It was that it doc03 Nov 2023 #27

I think I agree with you on that Recycle_Guru Nov 2023 #35

I thought it didn't sound good to many back then. EllieBC Nov 2023 #28

NAFTA was a disaster for working men and women...Perot was right. Demsrule86 Nov 2023 #31

Remember the slogan? Polybius Nov 2023 #32