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Savannahmann

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19. I guess my complaint is the road to Hell
Sun Nov 18, 2012, 03:12 PM
Nov 2012

We seem to be on it, and we can't change course. If we elect a Repug, we stomp on the gas to get to the world they dream of. A fascist based Plutocracy. Where the Government isn't for everyone, just the 1% who matters. (Yes, that's from the Cinemax show Hunted but it is the way the Repugs think isn't it?) When we are able to get Democrats into office, we tap the brakes, we slow down a bit, but we're still headed toward the same destination on the same road. One of my often expressed pet peeves is the PATRIOT ACT. Even if you admit that those who voted for it originally did so out of the best of intentions, you have to admit that the monster created by that act is an abomination. So why do we not kill the abomination? Why we might look like we're not tough on Terrorism. I've never seen anyone swear an oath to take an office to do anything other than defend the Constitution. Yet we happily vote to toss the 4th, 5th, and 6th Amendments out the window for the PATRIOT ACT.

I guess I'm calling on Democrats to do something other than tap the brakes a bit. I want them to slam those brakes on, and shift that thing into reverse. But I can see already, we're not going to do it. We're going to avoid doing it, because it's just too hard. Do you ever wonder what History will say about us in a hundred years? Read History books today, about the morons in charge as the First World War started up. Have we learned nothing from their mistakes? Are we doomed to keep making the same mistakes over and over again every generation? Sometimes, I think we are.

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No Carbon Tax: Obama [View all] RobertEarl Nov 2012 OP
Maybe in 2015. Change has come Nov 2012 #1
How are we going to pay for it? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #2
As long as paying for their pollution remains cost-effective, they will continue to pollute NoOneMan Nov 2012 #3
That's the idea RobertEarl Nov 2012 #4
You can't close any plants until infrastructure exists to replace them NoOneMan Nov 2012 #5
Can't argue against that RobertEarl Nov 2012 #7
Does it really matter? NoOneMan Nov 2012 #8
Can't argue that either RobertEarl Nov 2012 #9
We will likely do nothing as the momentum of civilization is too strong NoOneMan Nov 2012 #10
California's cap-and-trade system just went into effect. ellisonz Nov 2012 #6
Great. And the EU has had one since 2005. pampango Nov 2012 #11
pumping up the next financial bubble; more concentration of wealth and HiPointDem Nov 2012 #13
How will cap-and-trade produce "the next financial bubble" ??? ellisonz Nov 2012 #18
by marketizing dubious 'assets', same as the real estate bubble. and it won't HiPointDem Nov 2012 #20
You do understand that it will make polluting increasingly expensive? ellisonz Nov 2012 #21
nope, i don't understand that. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #22
The pollution wouldn't go elsewhere if other places stood up to polluters like California... ellisonz Nov 2012 #23
did you read the link? it ain't going to work, so it doesn't matter what you'll trade. HiPointDem Nov 2012 #24
lol ellisonz Nov 2012 #25
but we can tax cigarettes and soda, no problem. and to hear some people talk, HiPointDem Nov 2012 #12
Puts it all into perspective doesn't it aandegoons Nov 2012 #14
Cap and trade is a scam moparlunatic Nov 2012 #16
Here is the real problem Savannahmann Nov 2012 #15
Yeah... RobertEarl Nov 2012 #17
I guess my complaint is the road to Hell Savannahmann Nov 2012 #19
A carbon Tax will reward Natural Gas... lib2DaBone Nov 2012 #26
Isn't natural gas carbon based? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #27
bull shit. straight bull shit. underoath Nov 2012 #28
Welcome to DU RobertEarl Nov 2012 #29
thanks! yes I have :) underoath Nov 2012 #30
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