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In reply to the discussion: An open letter from Jewish students - The Brown Daily Herald [View all]Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)2. This is an important piece....
...I personally believe it should be presented in full.
In keeping with DU's policy of limiting excerpts to 4 paragraphs per post, I am copying here the next 4 paragraphs after the first 2 copied in the OP, and I hope others will pick up where I leave off...
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2. Are we saying that antisemitism doesnt exist?
Of course not. Every single author of this piece has lost ancestors to state-sanctioned anti-Jewish violence. We have all grown up grappling with the intergenerational ripples of such atrocities. There is no question that antisemitism exists.
But we do not accept a Jewish ethnostate as the solution to our struggle. By using the Shoah and our collective traumas to justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, the Israeli military project insults the memory of our ancestors. We will not allow history to repeat itself; never again calls for the protection of everyone Jews and non-Jews alike from genocide.
If we cannot acknowledge and reject Israels indiscriminate killing of thousands and forced displacement of over 1.5 million Palestinians, then we have failed to learn from our history.
We want to illustrate a distinction that many Zionists attempt to obfuscate: First, there is the spiritual entity of Israel as Jacobs alias, as the Jewish people, as a word that features in many of our prayers. Then, there is the state of Israel, which was founded in 1948. Even the nomenclature of the state of Israel'' serves to confuse political Zionism with Judaism and Jewishness. This conflation is dangerous and ignores a long and ongoing history of Jewish opposition to Zionist nation-state ideology. We hold our opposition to the state simultaneously with our connection to the amorphous spiritual entity.
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2. Are we saying that antisemitism doesnt exist?
Of course not. Every single author of this piece has lost ancestors to state-sanctioned anti-Jewish violence. We have all grown up grappling with the intergenerational ripples of such atrocities. There is no question that antisemitism exists.
But we do not accept a Jewish ethnostate as the solution to our struggle. By using the Shoah and our collective traumas to justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, the Israeli military project insults the memory of our ancestors. We will not allow history to repeat itself; never again calls for the protection of everyone Jews and non-Jews alike from genocide.
If we cannot acknowledge and reject Israels indiscriminate killing of thousands and forced displacement of over 1.5 million Palestinians, then we have failed to learn from our history.
We want to illustrate a distinction that many Zionists attempt to obfuscate: First, there is the spiritual entity of Israel as Jacobs alias, as the Jewish people, as a word that features in many of our prayers. Then, there is the state of Israel, which was founded in 1948. Even the nomenclature of the state of Israel'' serves to confuse political Zionism with Judaism and Jewishness. This conflation is dangerous and ignores a long and ongoing history of Jewish opposition to Zionist nation-state ideology. We hold our opposition to the state simultaneously with our connection to the amorphous spiritual entity.
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The opinion of 36 out of 10,425 students at Brown University is duly noticed.
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#4
Yeah... Typical... The Peace Makers Get Scoffed At, Ridiculed, And Sometimes Stand Alone... Sometimes Murdered
JackCoop
Nov 2023
#14
Then, on the order of My Majesty, 36 titles of peacemakers are hereby granted to
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#20
Upon lengthy meditation on the difference, I realized my gravest of errors and rephrased myself.
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#21
Now that you have articulated your suggestion, allow me to rephrase with it in mind:
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#23
Finally! It took so many words to say what I've been saying from the start:
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#28
You Don't Get The Significance Of A Letter Written By Jews Opposing Israel's Reaction To Oct. 7th ???
JackCoop
Nov 2023
#27
I don't think "deliberately twisting the facts" means what you think it means.
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#38
Huh? Are you suggesting that the self-evident weakness of your deflections is in any way
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#41
The same fear of retibution is likely to deter the detractors of Hamas and militant Islam-inspired violence
Beastly Boy
Nov 2023
#43
Nicole Wallace sits with college students to discuss antisemtic threats they and their peers have faced on campus
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#48