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Think. Again.

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2. This is an important piece....
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 06:49 PM
Nov 2023

...I personally believe it should be presented in full.

In keeping with DU's policy of limiting excerpts to 4 paragraphs per post, I am copying here the next 4 paragraphs after the first 2 copied in the OP, and I hope others will pick up where I leave off...

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2. Are we saying that antisemitism doesn’t exist?

Of course not. Every single author of this piece has lost ancestors to state-sanctioned anti-Jewish violence. We have all grown up grappling with the intergenerational ripples of such atrocities. There is no question that antisemitism exists.

But we do not accept a Jewish ethnostate as the solution to our struggle. By using the Shoah and our collective traumas to justify the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, the Israeli military project insults the memory of our ancestors. We will not allow history to repeat itself; “never again” calls for the protection of everyone — Jews and non-Jews alike — from genocide.

If we cannot acknowledge and reject Israel’s indiscriminate killing of thousands and forced displacement of over 1.5 million Palestinians, then we have failed to learn from our history.

We want to illustrate a distinction that many Zionists attempt to obfuscate: First, there is the spiritual entity of Israel — as Jacob’s alias, as the Jewish people, as a word that features in many of our prayers. Then, there is the state of Israel, which was founded in 1948. Even the nomenclature of the state of “Israel'' serves to confuse political Zionism with Judaism and Jewishness. This conflation is dangerous and ignores a long and ongoing history of Jewish opposition to Zionist nation-state ideology. We hold our opposition to the state simultaneously with our connection to the amorphous spiritual entity.

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K&R onecaliberal Nov 2023 #1
This is an important piece.... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #2
Next 4. So worth the read. AloeVera Nov 2023 #3
The opinion of 36 out of 10,425 students at Brown University is duly noticed. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #4
Yeah, 36 Brave Young Men And Women JackCoop Nov 2023 #5
The Brown chapter of Hilel shows the number of Jewish students at Brown Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #7
They Strive For Peace JackCoop Nov 2023 #10
If this is what they strive for, they do so in the most ignorant way. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #12
Yeah... Typical... The Peace Makers Get Scoffed At, Ridiculed, And Sometimes Stand Alone... Sometimes Murdered JackCoop Nov 2023 #14
If they are the peace makers, I am Queen of England. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #15
Your Majesty... So Lovely To Finally Meet You JackCoop Nov 2023 #16
Then, on the order of My Majesty, 36 titles of peacemakers are hereby granted to Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #20
Good belly laugh Thinker Cats Nov 2023 #40
Lack of critical thinking.......... Butterflylady Nov 2023 #45
Critical thinkinf is a skill, not an achievement. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #47
Ultraminority rule isn't a thing we exalt. n/t Igel Nov 2023 #30
Rule? Think. Again. Nov 2023 #32
I didn't see where... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #6
Absence of their names under the open letter by definition means that Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #8
You realize an "open letter" refers to... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #9
Yes I do. What I don't get is Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #11
I don't see where... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #13
Ok, I see your point. Let me rephrase: Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #17
At The Link, It Says "By a collective of anti-occupation Jews" JackCoop Nov 2023 #18
Upon lengthy meditation on the difference, I realized my gravest of errors and rephrased myself. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #21
And... They Don't Purport To Speak For All Jews, Or All Jews At Brown JackCoop Nov 2023 #22
Yes, I see! Honest! Cross my heart and hope to die! Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #25
Instead assuming anyone 'declined' to sign the letter... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #19
Now that you have articulated your suggestion, allow me to rephrase with it in mind: Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #23
Yes...that's correct... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #24
Finally! It took so many words to say what I've been saying from the start: Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #28
You Don't Get The Significance Of A Letter Written By Jews Opposing Israel's Reaction To Oct. 7th ??? JackCoop Nov 2023 #27
No I don't. A tempest in a teacup. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #29
You still don't understand... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #33
Yes I do, and you don't seem to get it. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #36
You appear to be... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #37
I don't think "deliberately twisting the facts" means what you think it means. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #38
Gaslighting much? Think. Again. Nov 2023 #39
Huh? Are you suggesting that the self-evident weakness of your deflections is in any way Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #41
Is it possible that others didn't sign because they ecstatic Nov 2023 #42
The same fear of retibution is likely to deter the detractors of Hamas and militant Islam-inspired violence Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #43
True. Thoughtful people should be able to ecstatic Nov 2023 #44
You have given the explanation as to why Butterflylady Nov 2023 #46
Beautiful David__77 Nov 2023 #26
Brave enid602 Nov 2023 #31
Thank goodness... Think. Again. Nov 2023 #34
How very....what's the word I am looking for...oh yes... Behind the Aegis Nov 2023 #35
Nicole Wallace sits with college students to discuss antisemtic threats they and their peers have faced on campus LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #48
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