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In reply to the discussion: NYT covering Hillary Clinton's "deplorables" remark vs NYT covering Donald Trump's "vermin" remark. [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(152,275 posts)49. Trump calls political enemies 'vermin,' echoing dictators Hitler, Mussolini
The Washington Post is correctly reporting this story compared the NYT which is trying to protect TFG
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/11/12/trump-rally-vermin-political-opponents/
Former president Donald Trump denigrated his domestic opponents and critics during a Veterans Day speech Saturday, calling those on the other side of the aisle vermin and suggesting that they pose a greater threat to the United States than countries such as Russia, China or North Korea. That language is drawing rebuke from historians, who compared it to that of authoritarian leaders.
We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections, Trump said toward the end of his speech, repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. Theyll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream.
Trump went on further to state: the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, theyre not going to want to play with us.....
The language is the language that dictators use to instill fear, said Timothy Naftali, a senior research scholar at Columbia Universitys School of International and Public Affairs. When you dehumanize an opponent, you strip them of their constitutional rights to participate securely in a democracy because youre saying theyre not human. Thats what dictators do.
Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a historian at New York University, said in an email to The Washington Post that calling people 'vermin was used effectively by Hitler and Mussolini to dehumanize people and encourage their followers to engage in violence.
We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections, Trump said toward the end of his speech, repeating his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. Theyll do anything, whether legally or illegally, to destroy America and to destroy the American Dream.
Trump went on further to state: the threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within. Because if you have a capable, competent, smart, tough leader, Russia, China, North Korea, theyre not going to want to play with us.....
The language is the language that dictators use to instill fear, said Timothy Naftali, a senior research scholar at Columbia Universitys School of International and Public Affairs. When you dehumanize an opponent, you strip them of their constitutional rights to participate securely in a democracy because youre saying theyre not human. Thats what dictators do.
Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a historian at New York University, said in an email to The Washington Post that calling people 'vermin was used effectively by Hitler and Mussolini to dehumanize people and encourage their followers to engage in violence.
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NYT covering Hillary Clinton's "deplorables" remark vs NYT covering Donald Trump's "vermin" remark. [View all]
tenderfoot
Nov 2023
OP
u forgot one thing if it blows up coverup , lie , cheat , steal . distract. go sputter sputt sputt
AllaN01Bear
Nov 2023
#66
If a Democrat pol is speaking and there are no media types listening or paying...
thenelm1
Nov 2023
#77
FWIW, I've lived long enough to agree with you 100% about the NYT. It's always the "Judas" of the 'liberal' media.
keopeli
Nov 2023
#30
As you suggest, the NYT has a history of blindering the reading public, e.g. during the holocaust
PTL_Mancuso
Nov 2023
#67
Oh Yeah, NYT? Why the Hell Don't you Tell Us What "Direction" that ii is and What he said Or
Cha
Nov 2023
#53
And here's the New Republic also calling out Trump's use of the term and pointing out how it's "straight-up Nazi talk."
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#52
Twitter is a platform that distributes content, not a content creator like the NYT
Celerity
Nov 2023
#57
The Washington Post has the correct headline while the NYT tries to protect TFG
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#48
Jarringly illogical: You blame the DNC for NYT's blatantly biased headlines.
Hermit-The-Prog
Nov 2023
#73
Thank you for the laughs. Laypersons are amusing when they attempt to argue
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#90
If this is how you operate in the "real world", I would be curious what world that is.
NCIndie
Nov 2023
#92
Both headlines appear accurate to me. Are we suggesting the Times should have reported that the DNC "pounced" on
Martin68
Nov 2023
#21
The Washington Post makes the original header at the New York Times sound almost surreal
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#42
Trump calls political enemies 'vermin,' echoing dictators Hitler, Mussolini
LetMyPeopleVote
Nov 2023
#49
"Vermin". That is one of the same words that Hitler used against the Jews...
DemocraticPatriot
Nov 2023
#50