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Israeli Minister Admits Military Is Carrying Out 'Nakba' Against Gaza's Palestinians [View all] LiberalArkie Nov 2023 OP

What's wrong with what he said ? He wants people to leave so they want go after Hamas JI7 Nov 2023 #1

. David__77 Nov 2023 #2

So this has nothing to do with Oct 7 ? JI7 Nov 2023 #4

. David__77 Nov 2023 #5

Ethnic cleansing of israelis that were forced off years ago ? JI7 Nov 2023 #6

I think the Israel minister was referring no to Gaza people. David__77 Nov 2023 #8

Here. Eko Nov 2023 #55

Tell me what the definition of ethnic cleansing is, and I will tell you what Nakba is not. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #12

Do not take the bait GuppyGal Nov 2023 #36

And Israel says the hostages are in the tunnels and the IDF is bombing the shit out of said tunnels LiberalArkie Nov 2023 #3

The Term Nakba Has A Very Specific Meaning VernaF Nov 2023 #7

So things that happen after they declared war on Israel and now after Oct 7 attacks JI7 Nov 2023 #9

That's right and it is consistent with the conduct of this war of annihilation. David__77 Nov 2023 #10

If he used the word Nakba... AdamGG Nov 2023 #84

This Nakba and over retaliation is staining Israel's international image. brush Nov 2023 #11

Why is it that you hold Israel responsible for the 10,000 killed? Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #13

Ok, the bombings killed no one? Please. brush Nov 2023 #14

What a ridiculous response. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #15

You should be ashamed. International organizations and critics.... brush Nov 2023 #17

The feeling is mutual. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #19

Ashamed. brush Nov 2023 #20

By all means. However, your shaming does not create in me a sense of obligation. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #23

It's like a broken record, international orgs always call it ethnic cleansing, yet... elias7 Nov 2023 #101

You should understand that I have consistently called for.. brush Nov 2023 #102

Nope. Eko Nov 2023 #56

I strongly suggest that you read the Geneva Conventions and the Rome Conventions Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #61

I just read the Geneva Conventions on human shields. Eko Nov 2023 #64

Hate to disappoint you, but you didn't read the Geneva Conventions Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #67

Wow!!!! Eko Nov 2023 #74

There is a prohibition written into law: Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #80

Bud, this is easy. Eko Nov 2023 #82

It is easy when you start making stuff up. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #86

I mean, here you are making stuff up. Eko Nov 2023 #90

I showed you what the pertinent parts of the Fourth Geneva Convention say. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #95

Yeah, cmon man, show your work. Eko Nov 2023 #96

See, you added something here. Eko Nov 2023 #103

That's a pretty contrived argument. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #104

Are you saying Israel is a train that cant stop in time? Eko Nov 2023 #105

The "blame" the quote is talking about is the potential perception of the blame by uninformed public. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #106

You might want to ask yourself why the only time the author talks about who is to blame Eko Nov 2023 #107

I read what the author had to say about it. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #108

Yes it is unambiguous. Eko Nov 2023 #109

You are nor replying to my post. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #112

You are the one who keeps saying it says that when it doesnt. Eko Nov 2023 #113

How? Chuuku Davis Nov 2023 #51

It has to be the long, hard slog of urban warfare... brush Nov 2023 #53

Following your logic, if (hopefully not when) Israel really ramps it up and the slaughter of civilians Celerity Nov 2023 #18

When my line is hewed, then and only then would the guilty be held accountable. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #21

If the civilians deaths become too high and reach a point where a paradigm shift takes place, very few Celerity Nov 2023 #24

I am paying attention: Israel turned on Netanyahu a long time ago. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #25

International law also has disportionate response elements, as does real life global (including the US) public Celerity Nov 2023 #26

I am not aware of the disproportiomal response elements in international law. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #27

IF things go truly pear shaped & the counts of civilians slaughtered go into the tens upon tens of thousands, especially Celerity Nov 2023 #28

So the only answer to my questions you have is to deflect back to Israel and speculate on the casualties, Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #34

I'll anwser your questions. Eko Nov 2023 #57

And I will answer right back Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #63

I didnt ask a question. Eko Nov 2023 #65

This is weird. You did ask a question. Two of them, to be precise. They are in your post, for all to read. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #73

You are saying that me copying and posting your questions Eko Nov 2023 #75

Here's a question. Eko Nov 2023 #66

The minute Hamas implemented the practice. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #68

Say what? Eko Nov 2023 #71

Are you assuming that Hamas implemented the human shield policy just recently? Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #77

Dont believe anything I have said points to me thinking they just started this. Eko Nov 2023 #79

Well, my argiment is along the same line, with one critical difference. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #83

No law says this man, Eko Nov 2023 #85

You read the law. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #88

Why don't you defend your position with evidence? Eko Nov 2023 #92

You already did my work for me. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #99

So show me the law. Eko Nov 2023 #94

I did. You want to see it again? Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #98

Is your back hurting? Eko Nov 2023 #87

Who caused the bombs to be dropped? Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #91

I dont know. Do you? Eko Nov 2023 #93

Yes, I know. And so do you. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #97

OOOH! OOOH! OOOH! I KNOW!!! yagotme Nov 2023 #69

Is that when it really happened? Eko Nov 2023 #70

I figured this part would have been self explanatory: yagotme Nov 2023 #72

Nope, you are right on the money. Eko Nov 2023 #81

Wasn't a hard question. yagotme Nov 2023 #116

Kind if like why do people hold white Americans at fault for the thousands of native Americans that died LiberalArkie Nov 2023 #29

Exactly Right Thinker Cats Nov 2023 #30

I know, some things can not be undone. It was not the right thing to do, but it is done. LiberalArkie Nov 2023 #32

Yeah, I vividly recall the native Amerivan warriors using their kin as humn shields. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #38

There's inthewind21 Nov 2023 #110

Great post malaise Nov 2023 #45

Because Israel is dropping the bombs. Who should have the blame? Palestinians? They are not Hamas. Autumn Nov 2023 #31

Just a modest suggestion: how about blaming Hamas? Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #37

I do blame Hamas. And in my opinion Israel shares the blame for the needless death of some Autumn Nov 2023 #40

That's refreshing. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #41

You can't have a conversation about Hamas without saying "but...Israel" Autumn Nov 2023 #42

Apparently, many people don't know what Hamas has done to gaza civilians Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #44

Because it sounds just like Eko Nov 2023 #58

So really 100% of the killed have all been civilians? EX500rider Nov 2023 #22

So why inthewind21 Nov 2023 #59

Huh inthewind21 Nov 2023 #111

Most modern militaries don't give kill tallies EX500rider Nov 2023 #115

Former advisor to Shimon Peres moondust Nov 2023 #16

Of course he isn't edisdead Nov 2023 #33

The one bad thing about reading threads when you are logged out is that the people you have BLOCKED GuppyGal Nov 2023 #35

I don't block people Mossfern Nov 2023 #43

Well, if the Agriculture Minister says it... maxsolomon Nov 2023 #39

Starvation, thirst, disease, bombs and bullets Model35mech Nov 2023 #46

I can't really say what the Agriculture Minister means by "Nakba". maxsolomon Nov 2023 #47

I was commenting on how Gaza could be depopulated Model35mech Nov 2023 #48

A slippery slope prediction, then. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #49

No. I mean 70% of Palestinians pre-Israeli nationhood couldn't be accounted for after Model35mech Nov 2023 #50

I guess I just don't understand what "accounted for" means. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #52

Well I'll try this, it means: NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM Model35mech Nov 2023 #54

It's pretty inthewind21 Nov 2023 #60

OK, thanks for the condescension. maxsolomon Nov 2023 #62

The department heads of Netanyahu's far right government... AdamGG Nov 2023 #89

As I said, it's worth comment. Model35mech Nov 2023 #100

Is it possible that the Agricultural Minister isn't the best source of information on military policy? brooklynite Nov 2023 #76

OR the Agriculture minister is testing a LEAD BALLOON Model35mech Nov 2023 #114

Admits, brags, po-tay-to, po-tah-to RockRaven Nov 2023 #78